Re: LPAR Question

["Mark Phippard" <MarkP@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

We are early in our process and haven't done any official pricing with all 
of the real details in there.  For example, perhaps factoring the costs of 
some additional licensed programs would change the equation.  We do not 
have any 3rd party software issues though so that doesn't matter.

The other possibility is that when I am estimating, I am oversizing the 
LPAR box.

I am sure it will all work itself out.  My main question, which has been 
answered, is that we should not attempt to do this ourselves.

Thanks






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Maybe some of these factors are affected by his Partnerworld discounts?

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Mark,

  Then you are on target!  However I would challenge your assertion that 
two boxes are cheaper than one.

No. of Cabinets is same or less for LPAR
Amount of memory is same or less for LPAR
Quantity of Disks is generally the same.
Quantity of IOAs is generally the same, sometimes less.
Quanityt of Tape drives is generally the same, sometimes less.
Amount of CPW purchased is often Less

Cost of Maintenance, OS features, and support is almost Always 
significantly less.

Cost of installation is the only area where LPAR is slightly higher and 
that's a OTC.

   - Larry

Mark Phippard wrote:

>That is why I asked the question to begin with,  I understood that 
someone 
>consolidating real production servers into one LPAR server would need the 


>extra hardware, tape drives etc...  I just wanted to confirm that this 
was 
>also needed on a simple QA box that isn't mission critical, doesn't need 
>backup etc....
>
>I have no intention of trying to do this myself, if anything I don't want 


>to do it period.  It is way more expensive than buying multiple boxes.  I 


>am actually just trying to convince some other people that they cannot do 


>this themselves, and I wanted to be sure I understood the reasons and 
>confirm that there are not scenarios where you probably could do it 
>yourself.
>
>Mark
>
>
>
>
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>
>Mark,
>
>   Please understand this is not a flame but from your comments you 
>understand the theory behind LPAR but not the reality.  Those of us 
>doing LPAR would like to be able to do some of the things you suggest 
>and perhaps in the future some of them may appear. But for now you must 
>get the rules right, all of them, or you *WILL* be missing critical 
>pieces.  Trust me on that.  You cannot create a partition without the 
>minimum requirements.  I strongly recommend that if you are doing only 
>one, you select a partner that knows the ropes. They can show you how it 
>was done, train you in the day-to-day stuff and be available for future 
>enhancements.
>
>   - Larry
>
> 
>
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