Re: Connecting to a database that is on Microsoft SQL Server

This was all new to me so I guess maybe I'm the "script kiddies" :) Do you 
have any more info on "JDBC, ODBC or some derivative" for iSeries or a good 
site to learn about 
these listed items.

Thanks 
Bill Hopkins
 




rob@xxxxxxxxx
Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
10/22/2003 03:09 PM
Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion

 
        To:     Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
        cc: 
        Subject:        Re: Connecting to a database that is on Microsoft SQL 
Server


Who, in a sober state, would like to use this in a business practice? 
Let's see, everytime we want to access our SQL server database we'll 
export it to something that the iSeries can read from QNTC.  I think the 
script kiddies that try to update your database by sending email from the 
web application are doing a better job.

Better to look at the other solutions that use JDBC, ODBC or some 
derivative.

Rob Berendt
-- 
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary 
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." 
Benjamin Franklin 




"Bill Hopkins" <BHopkins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
10/22/2003 11:43 AM
Please respond to
Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>


To
Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
cc

Subject
Re: Connecting to a database that is on Microsoft SQL Server






Thanks Vern 

Bill Hopkins 





Vern Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
10/22/2003 12:32 PM
Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion

 
        To:     Midrange Systems Technical Discussion 
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
        cc: 
        Subject:        Re: Connecting to a database that is on Microsoft 
SQL Server


Hi, Bill

If the SQL Server can export the file into an ASCII fixed length or 
delimited form on itself, then the iSeries could read that through /QNTC. 
Of course, the size makes that prohibitive, too. You'd use CPYFRMIMPF, not 



CPYFRMPCD, which has to be in QDLS, and has to be in 8.3 naming, as well 
as 
being relatively slow.

Or, instead of copying into a PF, RPG (ILE at least) can directly read the 



IFS file and work with the data - it involves IFS APIs - see the API 
manuals. There are folks on this list with examples, I believe.

/QNTC lets you mount directly to NT/2000 file shares - very cool because 
it 
takes no space on the iSeries, and no need to map anything on the SQL 
Server box.

HTH

Vern

At 12:13 PM 10/22/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>I did not know. But thought he could put file in the IFS with a mapped
>drive then CPYFRMPCD to PF then read with RPG. It would not be direct 
link 
>and the copy would
>probably take awhile with number of records.
>I go the other way process reads JDE and PKMS info and builds PF files
>then CPYTOIMPF each to QOpenSys/Dir/file. After that is done I run Remote
>command to run scripted DTS to build into SQL Server database.
>
>This was all new to me, still learning.
>
>Bill Hopkins
>
>Vern Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>10/22/2003 11:54 AM
>Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
>
>         To:     Midrange Systems Technical Discussion 
> <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>         cc:
>         Subject:        Re: Connecting to a database that is on 
Microsoft 
> SQL Server
>
>Internal structure of SQL Server is not known to iSeries DB manager. 
Needs
>
>some kind of SQL translator, like ODBC or JDBC or DRDA. You can "map" to
>files on an SQL Server box, using the /QNTC file system, but they will 
not
>
>be usable. M$ never saw fit to write a DRDA provider (analogous to IBM
>writing an ODBC driver for DB2) for SQL Server - too bad.
>
>Anyway, there's probably never going to be a way to use it with RPG,
>except
>with embedded SQL - if there were a DRDA provider, which there is not.
>Left
>with Java or that other IBM product.
>
>HTH
>
>Vern
>
>At 11:00 AM 10/22/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> >I go the other way, with a mapped drive on PC side.  Drive is mapped to
> >DIR QOpenSys/DIR Name/File on iSeries. SQL Server points there on DTS.
> >Have tried other way but don't see why it would not work.
> >
> >Bill Hopkins
> >
> >Rich_Weislak@xxxxxxxxx
> >Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >10/22/2003 10:33 AM
> >Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> >
> >         To:     midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >         cc:
> >         Subject:        Connecting to a database that is on Microsoft
>SQL
> > Server
> >
> >All:
> >
> >    Is there a way from the 400 side to either make a link to a 
Microsoft
> >SQL Server database, I know I can copy it to the 400, but this database
> >has
> >4 + millions records in it, so if I could just some how create a link 
to
> >and open in up in a RPG program,
> >
> >Rich


_______________________________________________
This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing 
list
To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options,
visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l
or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives
at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.



_______________________________________________
This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing 
list
To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options,
visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l
or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives
at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.


_______________________________________________
This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing 
list
To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options,
visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l
or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives
at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.