RE: LINUX Workstations

[rob@xxxxxxxxx]

I think that this speaks volumes "I don't web program, so I don't know 
this from experience.".
I think you're best then to defer to Joe on this one Mike.

And a browser based version of a telnet 5250 client has some merit, 
despite some others misgivings.  Expecting all your clients to download a 
5250 client may be a bit much.  And, with the browser based, you can put 
it on different ports.

And didn't IBM give this technique legitimacy with it's iSeries Access for 
Web product?

Rob Berendt
-- 
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary 
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." 
Benjamin Franklin 




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But....

You can follow standards and still have these functions in IE. Or is that 
an
oxymoron? If you code most things to standards (so all browsers work) then
add those things that only IE can do, you are still getting your results
aren't you? I don't web program, so I don't know this from experience. 

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I happen to think Joe is right on this issue.  The "standards" do not
include a fundamental feature required for building a good user experience
in a web application - rich event handling in JavaScript.  Microsoft, on 
the
other hand, does include this feature in their implementation of the DOM 
in
IE.

I could be wrong, but I believe Joe has said in the past that his
application will work with other browsers, the UI simply will not include
all of the features that it does with IE.  For example, IE users can use
FKey shortcuts, and text that should be upper-cased or numeric-only will 
be
handled automatically in IE, but not Mozilla.  As long as he properly
validates/reformats the input on the server so that non-IE browsers can be
used, what is wrong with including IE-specific functionality that can
improve the application?


Mark









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Joe, it isn't religious. Its history. Ask the folks at Lotus 1-2-3 and
WordPerfect.
 
I didn't say "if it's not in Mozilla, it's bad." 
 
I say if its Microsoft it will hurt me professionally someday. Knowing how
much effort you have put into your product it flabbergasts me that you are
so quick & ready to put your head in that noose. 
 
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Date: Friday, October 03, 2003 11:44:34
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Subject: RE: LINUX Workstations
 
> From: Booth Martin
>
> By swallowing their bait you are only furthering the eventual demise 
> of your own product.
 
See, this is getting religious. Your argument has degraded to "if it's not
in Mozilla, it's bad."
 
Booth, what I'm doing is giving my clients the best possible product.
You and everybody on this list should realize that that is the single 
thing
we do. If you want to make Mozilla competitive, join the Open Source
development group and add the event filtering logic. Better yet, join the
standards team and get them to actually write standards that mean 
something
in the real world.
 
Joe

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