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Thanks Jeff, We'll take this under advisement. Rob Berendt -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin Jeff Bull <Jeff.Bull@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 09/23/2003 09:22 AM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject RE: QINTER problems: CPF5390, CPF1317, CPF1189, CPF1196 I recall having this problem a couple of years ago, as far as I can remember, the symptoms and cause where near enough identical. I never did solve it as such, but managed to reduce the frequency of occurences ... Split the QINTER subsystem monitor job and the interactive jobs into separate pools (subsystem-pools in different system pools - I moved SBS-pool-1 to *BASE, used the routing entries to put the interactive jobs into sbs-pool-2, *INTERACT). The *NOMAX activity level on QINTER-sbsd is bad news, particularly when developers (super users) run batch-style jobs there. Use the TimeSlicePoolEnd value to purge them to the batchpool. Use multiple QINTERx sbs's and workstation name/type entries to keep the overall number of jobs in a subsystem down to 200 or less. This may of course necessitate the purchase of more system memory. ... my tuppence worth ... Kind regards, Jeffrey E. Bull OS400 Software Support Consultant IBM Certifiied iSeries System Implementation Expert IBM Certified AS/400 System Administrator tel. +44 [0] 149 454 9533 swb. +44 [0] 149 454 9400 mbl. +44 [0] 786 750 4961 fax. +44 [0] 149 454 9454 web. http://www.itm-group.co.uk ITM Group Ltd, Latimer Square, White Lion Road, Amersham, Buckinghamshire, HP7 9JQ, United Kingdom -----Original Message----- From: rob@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:rob@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: 22 September 2003 20:11 To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion Subject: Re: QINTER problems: CPF5390, CPF1317, CPF1189, CPF1196 IBM's response: It appears that the subsystem was busy processing device errors, and didn't respond to the Retrieve Group Attributes request. After the interactive job wits 30 seconds for the subsystem to reply, it will post the CPF1317. . Out first recommendation would be to check the number of users in the interactive subsystem. We recommend only having 250 - 300 users in an interactive subsystem, and we may see a variety of errors if that number is exceeded. The subsystem is just bogged down too much with device processing if we have too many devices. . Second, there are a few PTFs we'd recommend for general subsystem concerns. I'd recommend downloading and applying SI09702 and SI09642 for 5722SS1. There is a third PTF for APAR SE11621, but this third PTF is not yet available. . Hopefully, these recommendations should help prevent this problem from occurring again. By the way, this error occurred in SYS501C. Some of you know what that program is, and also know that I do not have access to the source, etc. I'll order the ptf's and see what they do. Rob Berendt -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." 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