Re: OS/2 (Was Re: iSeries (non-) Marketing - part 24,566) -- MIDRANGE-L

Years ago it was rumored that there was going to be an NT version of the LAN
controller software for the 3995.    Anyone know more about this ?

The one nice thing about LAN attached vs Direct attached 3995 drives is that
multiple AS/400s can share the jukebox.

The real problem is not OS/2 pc, but the likely data loss that will occur as
these drives and platters get older.



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> Chris,
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> We have the same crap (but for VI/400, not OnDemand).  I feel your pain.
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> Mike E.
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> Speaking of OS/2, I have an iSeries - OS/2 complaint. We currently use a
> LAN-attached 3995 Optical Server for OnDemand. The only available
> application is using a PC running OS/2. I understand that if you buy this
> today that you have to go the OS/2 route and you have to configure it on
> your own...
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> However, try calling IBM for ANY support on OS/2 and you're up the creek!
> Call software support and OS/2 is no longer supported. Call hardware
> support and it's not supported either. You can't get support quickly on
> this certain product that they still sell!
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> We had some issues with migrating it from SNA to SNA over IP. We don't
> have the Communications Manager cds any more (our former manager threw
> them away!) Still haven't gotten it switched to SNA over IP. Anyone have
> CDs?
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> The key to getting support is to get your CE onsite. He will have to call
> a certain IBM number (in Phoenix I believe). He will then be asked by the
> person there who he is and how he got their number. Then they can argue
> for a few minutes and start working. I love our CE - he's great! Basically
> we never did get that SNA over IP working even with the CE here. In fact
> they actually crashed the OS/2 box but we got it back. My supervisor knew
> more about OS/2 than the CE - which isn't saying much.
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> This is probably one of the most stable computers we have here! No joke,
> but one time I remember that after we powered it down to move it that we
> powered it back up and pretty much forgot about it for about a year of
> daily use! No problems at all - it's rock solid. Even after our CE had to
> fumble through updating levels.
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> When OS/2 1.0 came out in 1987 I was probably just learning my
> multiplication tables...
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> Chris Whisonant
> Comporium
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> Jay Maynard wrote:
> > The failure of OS/2 was almost completely IBM's fault. They essentially
> > didn't market it at all. This, coupled with M$'s muscle, led to PC
> makers
> > preinstalling Windows exclusively. (IBm had the power to break that, but
> > wouldn't use it. Having power and being afraid to use it is worse than
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> > having power at all, IMAO.)
> > ...
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> I really don't want to get into a debate on OS/2, and I won't say
> anything further on OS/2 than this. But I remember OS/2 very well,
> having used it both at home and at work, long after most others had
> given up on it. Sure, there were mistakes on IBM's part. But even if
> they had thrown 10 times as much money into marketing it, I don't
> think it would have gotten much further than it did.
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> Cheers! Hans
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