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That's why you do business with a BP that totally understands LPAR, and is
prepared to bundle in with the purchase price the services necessary to
make it work.  LPARs are so complicated, that we charge for LPAR configs!
Unfortunately IBM has no LPAR Value Add, as they should.

Al

Al Barsa, Jr.
Barsa Consulting Group, LLC

400>390

914-251-1234
914-251-9406 fax

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NO lie Al... I can't IMAGINE what it would be like for an upgrade... We
are TOTALLY swapping out a 620 with an 810 LPAR'd. Our BP filled out the
"what ever it is called" work sheet or what ever that IBM wants them to
do and it gets OK'd I guess. Then the system comes in (it did this week)
and there is NOTHING but LIC on it. And as you note Al, the cards
weren't in the correct slots, etc. You would THINK that there would be
some correlation between the config sheet and what you get in... Nope.
This all was news to me. I understood there would be some work to do
with LPAR but had no idea drives had to be added, RAID'd, etc. Had am
individual I know that had been to LPAR school tell me that when this
was brought up in class (watch the card placement mess) the instructor
noted "these things are designed by PHD's and assembled by folks with
high school diplomas... Of course this is good for IGS...

Chuck

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In an LPAR environment, you take one physical system and partition it
into multiple logical systems.  This has very specific hardware
requirements, and is generally more difficult to configure and install.
IBM does not build the system properly, you need to swap around parts.
This is particularly true if you are going to upgrade an existing
system.

Al

Al Barsa, Jr.
Barsa Consulting Group, LLC

400>390

914-251-1234
914-251-9406 fax

http://www.barsaconsulting.com
http://www.taatool.com





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HI I am trying to see if I understand about LPARS. I understand the high
level. That you can use resources of other machines, that you can create
a very controlled environment.

Is there more - Is there alot of detail work for an admin in a shop that
uses LPARS extensively.

Thanks,
Rob


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