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Anybody care to talk about java? iSeries brags a lot about the JVM, but in my experience a given application that takes seconds to start on a cheap PC takes minutes on a $250K iSeries. Now, IBM will say (and it's valid) you can't just look at start time, how does it run once it's started? When you reply that it runs slow too, they say you should redesign your application, but the fact is that it runs fine on Wintel and UNIX without being benchmarked, profiled, analyzed and redesigned. I love iSeries and want it to endure, but I gotta call it as I see it and I hope the discussion brings positive results. This box just seems to do a lot of things that people care about nowadays slower than the competition. I'm sure if we tried to run 5250 RPG applications on Wintel it would suck, but that doesn't seem to be much in demand. Java, TCP/IP, file serving are. -Marty
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