Re: webfacing and competing products

["David Gibbs" <david@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

"trevor perry" <trevorp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
message news:001701c3344f$2da7d3a0$61794664@xxxxxxx
> However, I am making the assertion that if the HTML page (for example) is
> simply the same 24x80 that you had in the original green screen - no
matter
> how you got there (java, server, batch, etc..) then you have just scraped
> the screen.

I understand what you are saying ... and I disagree with your assertion.
"Scraping" means that you are taking something off of a surface ... with
traditional screen scraping products, that's exactly what you are doing ...
you are taking the data off a real screen representation and transforming
it's presentation.

With webfacing products you are not simply changing the presentation of
another display ... you are presenting the data in another way entirely.

> I was not picking on anyone in particular - just commenting on
> the fact that we have all this whizbang new technologies called "refacing"
> or "webfacing", but they all seem to look remarkably like the original
green
> screen.

But they do not have to ... Webfacing seems to be rather restricted in how
much modification is allowed, but I'm pretty sure that Joe's product gives
you free reign to alter the display.  The fact that the interface started
out as a 5250 screen, doesn't mean it has to remain a 5250 screen.  And, as
Joe pointed out, the back end to his product does not need to remain a
iSeries native program.

david