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And it isn't so rare that they sell an iSeries without the toolset. We have 5 iseries. Only two have the toolset. And if we weren't running Software Plus with their flexlist (which generates Report Program Generating programs on the fly) we would only have the toolset on one. (And wouldn't you know but that flexlist now has the toolset loaded on our largest machine? That affects cost, eh?) Think about a large multiple site with hundreds of machines. For cost and security purposes it is better to not have the toolset on all but one or a few machines. Rob Berendt -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin
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