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I don't know how the CORE curriculum will help. Sometimes going to a Munson topic can help clear the mind without being tempted to go flavor the local venue's and missing some critical topics. I've often heard this about the 2 a year. That might help if company A only sends one person a year, and company B only sends 1 person and they send them to different conferences then you've effectively reduced the overall head count at each conference. And, to those who go to every conference, (why, I'll never know, unless they like presenting), that would help reduce their costs. Personally it wouldn't make a difference with our company until the economy picks up. Never thought I'd see this here... And if the economy picked up I don't think we'd send anymore than 2 people at a time to a single conference, (unless Indy came back around). Therefore you'd be cutting out from 4 people a year to 2 people a year. Your part 3 kind of lost me. Are you suggesting that the XYZ vendor, move their annual convention to immediately precede or follow COMMON, or perhaps be an after hours event? That might save on travel expense, but that could backfire as too much time away from the office. Might also be too much information overflow to implement back at the office at once also. Rob Berendt -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin Don <dr2@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 05/21/2003 07:21 PM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx cc: Fax to: Subject: COMMON: What to do? I think David discontinued the COMMON@xxxxxxxxxxxx listserver, so David, if you want this moved please suggest a venu. There's been several good questions and concerns posted today. Clearly COMMON needs to regroup. What I would suggest immediately is 3 items: 1. Reduce the number of sessions/tracks to a more "core" curriculum. Also, allow for the scheduling of BOF's and non-core sessions BEFORE conference. This will allow BOF's and non-core sessions to be part of the overall session agenda, thus allowing for people to more properly schedule their time. And, that these sessions be held in the evening time slots after 5pm. The rooms are already paid for, but definately under used. And, if there's enough iterest, the sessions will fill as is appropriate. Further, I think they should allow for sessions in the CUDs environment. The historical concern here is alcohol leaving a controled venu. SO, broaden the size of the controled space and allow for some meeting rooms within the control space. I'm looking for more space utilization here. 2. Reduce the conference to once a year until such time as market demand says the market is ready for twice a year again. I would HOPE this is a short term stop gap. It should also give Chicago, the CBOD and committees time to regroup overall. But, frankly, I don't see where the market place is proving enough critical mass for 2 conferences a year. And, since IBM won't let Malcolm do interesting things like play his video vignettes on prime time TV,or do any other major marketing endeavors, I don't see overall market perception and acception of OS/400 based solutions changing their current declining trend. Notice I said OS/400...NOT iSeries. You'll find out why next spring. 3. Diversify thier offerings withing the OS/400 based marketspace. COMMON is a hardware/developers niche conference that's OS/400 centric. They can't goto other O/S's as all the rest of the popular (IBM) environment already have their "COMMON"...and Windows and linux/unix have more than enough already. COMMON needs to immediately and actively appeal to the vendor space to bring THEIR user group community as an inclusion in the conference experience. This was amply detailed in the CBOD/CMC presentation I did in Baltimore. Face it folks, the fact is that one of the biggest reasons folks are leaving the OS/400 environment is that they don't feel they can find affordable, state of the art, software for their applications that's OS/400 centric. By bolstering the user community and the OS/developers community, some serious synergy potentials exist. Now, it's time for my kid's bath...:) Don in DC _______________________________________________ This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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