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I didn't get approached by any panhandlers. Of course, being 6-5 and 265
might have something to do with it. A panhandler at the last SFO conference
made the BIG mistake of shoving me when I told him no.

Paul Nelson
Arbor Solutions, Inc.
708-670-6978 Cell
708-923-7354 Home
pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Don" <dr2@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: COMMON - new "non-conference hotel registration rate"


>
>
> Frankly, I didnt' have a hard time with it either from an attendee side,
> BUT, I can and do relate to my fellow attendees concerns on how agressive
> the pan handlers can be, and I also can agree with their concerns about
> being mugged right accross the street from the convention center.
> Further, the Balti convention center was REALLY expensive....   But, on
> the other hand, you could stay litterally accross the street from the
> convention center for $60/night...
>
> So, now we've replaced the $60/night with $200/night.  Something just
> doesnt' compute here...and that's why I question the executive
> decisions...
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 21 May 2003, Paul Nelson wrote:
>
> > Just curious, Don. What's wrong with Baltimore? I kinda liked having the
> > conference there.
> >
> > Paul Nelson
> > Arbor Solutions, Inc.
> > 708-670-6978 Cell
> > 708-923-7354 Home
> > pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Don" <dr2@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 10:44 PM
> > Subject: Re: COMMON - new "non-conference hotel registration rate"
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jim,
> > >
> > > Uh, Orlando was booked right after the last Balimore.  Orlando was
> > > supposed to be in Balti...and I'm really glad it's not, although
Balti's
> > > just a few miles from me....
> > >
> > > And, I'm also footing my own bill on this as well dude...:)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----------------------------
> > >
> > > On Tue, 20 May 2003, Jim Franz wrote:
> > >
> > > > >Why hasn't COMMON Management been
> > > > > able to find attractive yet more cost effective venu's than those
> > which
> > > > > they mandate expensive housing venus at?
> > > > Don,
> > > > Since they book 3 to 4 years in advance, this decision was 'a long
time
> > ago,
> > > > pre y2k'.
> > > > Back then, I think many were clamoring for Common to book larger
sites
> > > > so we didn't have to play in the traffic between classes.
> > > > 2nd thought, is I know they pull a certain percentage of attendees
from
> > > > local or at
> > > > least driving distance, so it does make sense to not always be in
the
> > same
> > > > places.
> > > > (btw-not on the board.. and can only afford every other year.)
> > > > jim
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Don" <dr2@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion"
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 10:16 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: COMMON - new "non-conference hotel registration rate"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Jim
> > > > >
> > > > > the thing I STILL can not understand.  Why hasn't COMMON
Management
> > been
> > > > > able to find attractive yet more cost effective venu's than those
> > which
> > > > > they mandate expensive housing venus at?  How many times has this
come
> > up
> > > > > at MOM and why does it still fall on deaf ears?
> > > > >
> > > > > In the case of Orlando, there's only one official venu, and it
aint'
> > > > > cheep...
> > > > >
> > > > > As for the travel email posted earlier today....ever ride a cab?
> > > > >
> > > > > Don in DC
> > > > >
> > > > > ------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 20 May 2003, Jim Franz wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Common (on web site) have stated they will not charge
> > > > > > the $100 fee to local or commuters. They also said the deal with
> > hotel
> > > > is
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > get charged (which ultimately means we pay more for future
> > conferences)
> > > > if
> > > > > > hotel has less than # contracted. And do not book hotel thru an
> > agent,
> > > > must
> > > > > > be thru Common Housing Bureau!
> > > > > > To me - it all works out the same - we either pay more for
> > conference
> > > > (and
> > > > > > stay whereever)
> > > > > > or do it this way. (and i have no employer to pay my way). This
is a
> > > > > > "common" practice in the hotel/convention industry (much of
which is
> > > > running
> > > > > > on iSeries!).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Leif Svalgaard" <leif@xxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion"
> > <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 11:59 AM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: COMMON - new "non-conference hotel registration
rate"
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: <rob@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Just in case you are thinking of attending COMMON and
staying in
> > > > other
> > > > > > > > hotels COMMON is now charging $100 extra to register if you
stay
> > at
> > > > a
> > > > > > non
> > > > > > > > conference hotel.  (I assume that also applies if you live
> > across
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > street from the venue.)  So on a 5 night stay your room
should
> > save
> > > > you
> > > > > > > > $20/night just to break even.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > what if I live in town and need a hotel? (or I say so, or
claim I
> > stay
> > > > at
> > > > > > > my daughter's?).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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