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Vern,

I agree with you there Vern.  And they wonder why the Knowledge Base and
Info Center is overloaded....  There are at least 10 supporting
documents floating around out there explaining what they really meant!
:-)

I shouldn't complain though.  I can remember the days of loading an OS
upgrade from 8" diskettes on a System/38!  :-)  The install process has
come along way from there!

The fun and games for V5R2 start tomorrow morning on this 270.  

Regards,

Mike Shaw


-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Vern Hamberg
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 6:59 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Immediate PTF -- What's the point?

Mike, after I read that I gave up at V5R1. I think the problem is that
load 
here means to load the image in to the catalog, not to load the PTF.
Talk 
about overLOADing operators!

Vern

At 05:57 PM 4/8/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>Tom,
>
>The way I read it, it was more of warning that was worded poorly but I
>knew what it meant.  It takes an IPL to apply no matter how it is done,
>immediate or delayed.  It was worded poorly at best.
>
>Here's a good one for you.  I am getting ready to take our Model 270 up
>to V5R2.  I downloaded the PTF's so that I could build an Image Catalog
>for the install of V5R2.  In the cover letter for 5722SS1 SI03120,
which
>gives the instructions for building and using the image catalog at
V5R1,
>has a paragraph that is so circular it is not funny.  On page 6, the
>first paragraph under the -- RESTRICTIONS -- section it says:
>
>"This PTF supports only the preparation and upgrade to V5R2M0 and
>subsequent supported upgrade paths from V5R1M0.  PTF and Licensed
>Program installation are not supported in V5R1M0.  If you have PTF or
>Licensed Program images you can load these images in the image catalog
>being used for the upgrade."
>
>So, can I load the PTF CUME as an image in the catalog or not?  The
>above paragraph tells me I can't but yet I can in the same paragraph!
>That's right up there with "This Page Intentionally Left Blank."  :-)
>
>Just for grins, does anyone know if the CUME Package can be loaded and
>applied from the Image Catalog while still at V5R1 and apply it once
>V5R2 is installed?
>
>Regards,
>
>Mike Shaw


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