RE: Java and Visual Basic, how to learn?

Ah!  Free!  From Microsoft!  What a good opportunity that is, eh?    
I am amazed at Microsoft's generosity.  
  
 
oh? It only runs on a few of Microsoft products, and on none of anyone else
s? 
 
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From: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Date: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 06:40:47
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Java and Visual Basic, how to learn?
 
Forget Visual Basic 6
VB.net or C# is the way to go and it is a free product.
You can download the .net framework and use notepad or better still
Microsoft's Web Matrix which is a good way to go if you want to do any
ASP.net or Webservices.Comes with its own web server too if IIS is
overkill on your local PC
http://www.asp.net/webmatrix/default.aspx?tabindex=4&tabid=46
 
Downside is to distribute any of the ASP stuff you need to run it on (a
Windows Server 2000 with IIS) as a web server
 
Cheers Dave
 
 
 
 
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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shannon O'Donnell
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 1:09 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Java and Visual Basic, how to learn?
 
Martin,
 
Yeah. I'm an unusual kind of guy...:-)
 
1.4 versions?!?!? Are you nuts? How do you count from 1 to 10 in GB?
ha!
Just kidding!!!
 
As you'll see in someone else's earilier post....there have been
significantly more than 1.4 versions. It worked out to, if I remember
correctly, something like 7 or 8 versions. That's like slightly over 1
new
version a year. My only comment to this is that VB only changes about
once
every three or four years.
 
But hey...I'm easy. Program in whatever language best gets the job done.
 
There's a reason why I learned to program in RPG, COBOL, Basic, RBasic,
Assembler, Java, VB, JavaScript, DHTML, HTML, C, C++ and other
languages.
It's so that I can use the best tool for the job.
 
But...for all you Java die-hards out there who wouldn't dream of using
any
other solution....more power to ya!
 
 
Shannon O'Donnell
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "McCallion, Martin" <martin.mccallion@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:14 AM
Subject: RE: Java and Visual Basic, how to learn?
 
 
> Shannon O'Donnell wrote:
>
> > I've programmed a lot in both Java and VB and I can tell you,
> > that, from my
> > perspective anyway, VB is way easier to learn and understand.
>
> In my experience, that is a very unusual position. Most of the people
I
> know who have done both have clamoured to get off VB and onto Java.
>
> > Java changes versions often (REAL OFTEN!).
>
> This is, perhaps, the strangest assertion I have ever heard made about
> Java. 1.4 versions in, what, seven years? Not goshdarned often
enough
> by a long shot, most would say. OS/400 changes faster than Java, I
> think.
>
> Getting back to Loyd's original question, perhaps the most important
> thing that I don't think anyone has mentioned yet, is that you can run
> your Java code on your AS/400 (with the exception of any GUI elements,
> obviously). You won't be doing that with VB in a hurry. This may or
> may not matter for a specific project, of course.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Martin.
>
> --
> Martin McCallion
> Senior Technical Consultant
> Misys Wholesale Banking Systems
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