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<P>Just a thought.....has anyone or does anyone plan on bringing up the 
documentation &amp; search engine concerns at COMMON? &nbsp;COMMON is an 
excellent place to bring user requirements directly to IBM. &nbsp; &nbsp; 
COMMON has many times in the past held sessions or BOFs IBM documentation. 
&nbsp;COMMON offers great opportunity to send a united group message to 
IBM.</P><P>Gail Crane<BR>Johanson Manufacturing Corp.<BR>phone 
973-334-2676<BR>gcrane@johansonmfg.com</P><P>&nbsp;<BR><FONT SIZE=2><B>Vern 
Hamberg &lt;vhamberg@centerfieldtechnology.com&gt;</B></FONT><BR><FONT 
SIZE=2>Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@midrange.com</FONT><BR><FONT 
SIZE=2>02/07/2003 09:43 PM CST</FONT><BR><FONT SIZE=2>Please respond to 
Midrange Systems Technical Discussion</FONT><BR><BR> <FONT SIZE=2>To:</FONT> 
<FONT SIZE=2>Midrange Systems Technical Discussion 
&lt;midrange-l@midrange.com&gt;</FONT><BR> <FONT SIZE=2>cc:</FONT> <BR> <FONT 
SIZE=2>bcc:</FONT> <BR> <FONT SIZE=2>Subject:</FONT> <FONT SIZE=2>Re: Improved 
Search improved</FONT><BR> <BR><BR></P><P><FONT FACE="Monospace,Courier">Just 
curious, what did you use?<BR></FONT><BR><FONT FACE="Monospace,Courier">I think 
that the way IBM has gone away from easy-to-get-at manuals, with<BR>search 
facilities over just those manuals, is unfortunate. The 
SoftLibrary<BR>(BookManager or whatever) had superb search capabilities, and 
you could put<BR>them on the 400 and use InfoSeeker right from a command line. 
Now, with<BR>what looks like part of an attempt to force us off of direct 
interfaces<BR>with the 400, they've removed STRINFSKR almost 
completely.<BR></FONT><BR><FONT FACE="Monospace,Courier">There was, for awhile, 
a set of the manuals in PDF format with the PDF<BR>search facility, which is 
almost as useful as the SoftLibrary thing.<BR></FONT><BR><FONT 
FACE="Monospace,Courier">It seems we're being told to depend on search engines. 
In fact, as you<BR>point out, they cannot do all the prioritizing, filtering, 
that a little<BR>careful thought and familiarity with where to look, can do. If 
we want a<BR>command, we go to the CL command manual (or maybe a few 
other<BR>product-specific ones).<BR></FONT><BR><FONT 
FACE="Monospace,Courier">Something in Web presentation and access just does not 
work, at least for me.<BR></FONT><BR><FONT 
FACE="Monospace,Courier">Vern<BR></FONT><BR><FONT FACE="Monospace,Courier">At 
03:32 PM 2/7/03 -0500, you wrote:<BR>&gt;That is exactly mpy point Vern. 
&nbsp;Its not going to get solved with a search<BR>&gt;engine. &nbsp;But 2 
years ago I could find the answer with a couple of clicks.<BR>&gt;Progress 
&lt;&gt; 
better.<BR>&gt;---------------------------------------------------------<BR>&gt;Booth
 Martin &nbsp; <A 
HREF=http://www.MartinVT.com>http://www.MartinVT.com</A><BR></FONT><BR><FONT 
FACE="Monospace,Courier">-snip-<BR></FONT><BR><FONT 
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