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Joe - When we talked on the phone I gave you a bad parameter, to change the IPLAPY setting on your PTF's you need to use the command APYPTF LICPGM(5722SS1) DELAYED(*YES) IPLAPY(*NO). That said your key issue is the link/loader error. This implies that you have one or more damaged PTF's that need to be reloaded and re-applied before you can continue the PTF apply process. The damaged PTF will show up in the LIC Log in Service Tools as a 0C00 FFFF entry, it will probably be in the top SCPF joblog in OUTQ status, or try DSPPTF LICPGM(5722999) OUTPUT(*PRINT) and search for the word "Damaged". The culprit is most likely an MF PTF that is a pre or co-req to the first PTF that would not apply (in the SCPF joblog.) You are right on in your understanding of the A and B sides, be sure to verify that C2134510 is successfully applied to the O/S(5722SS1) as well as the LIC. Good Luck! Scott Ingvaldson AS/400 System Administrator GuideOne Insurance Group -----Original Message----- Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 11:43:52 -0600 From: "Joe Pluta" <joepluta@PlutaBrothers.com> Subject: RE: Joe's V5R1 upgrade Wow. This is getting to be quite the saga. I can IPL to side A. Side A says I'm up to C2134510, which is a pretty good release. But side B will not boot, I consistently get a SRCB6000910. On Al's advice, I've been trying to enter an incident, but we're having problems there (I've been directed to use the Internet to purchase my incident, but the IBM web catalog store is not working). Basically, I just want to de-spin the B side. Scott Ingvaldson says it can be done by just going through and "unapplying" PTFs: APYPTF LICPGM(5722SS1) DELAYED(*NO) IPLAPY(*NO) APYREQ(*NO) Doing that for every licensed program may force the B-side to relink himself. The problem is whether or not this will work when IPL'd to the A side. Foer a short period I was beginning to understand which parts of the A side and B side were physical, and which were virtual, but now I'm not so sure. My current belief is that there is a copy of the SLIC on both sides. It is also my belief that PTFs for 5722999 apply to the SLIC. It is further my belief that the SLIC on the A side has only permanently applied PTFs and the one on the B side includes also temporarily applied PTFs. My other current belief is that temporary PTFs for the operating system and licensed programs are "virtual", in that they or either enabled or not based on which side you IPL from. So, there aren't two physical copies of the operating system; there is a base with permanent PTFs applied which is loaded when you start the machine, and then the temporary PTFs are somehow incorporated in at load time if you're running from the B side. If that's the case, I may be able to remove the PTFs (using the APYPTF command above) even though I'm on the A side, and then MAYBE that will force the B side to attempt to rerun the link/loader. Unfortunately, that's a WHOLE LOT of assumptions. If the A side weren't working, I might be tempted to try it, but since the A side is active, I am very reluctant to run ANY command that has the word "PTF" in it. Instead I'm putting in a call to IBM. Of course, that means buying an incident, and that's a whole DIFFERENT story. The web catalog store is broken right now (evidently all the virtual employees are on virtual break) and so instead I have to go through the manual procedure of receiving a contract, signing it, faxing it back, and then finally hopefully getting to talk to a technical person. I will say this; the IBM personnel are being very helpful. I have found over the last several weeks that (unlike certain times in IBM's past) it's definitely not the personnel, it's the processes. Any issues in service or support are primarily due to management, not the folks in the trenches. Joe
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