Re: Servers Spreading Like Rabbits...

Sounds like you speak from a lot of experience.  And to keep it on an 
iSeries perspective let me say that running this on IXS cards on an 
iSeries can alleviate 'some' of the concerns.

Like, nice fact you brought up about disk drives.

Comm between them can be done down the backplane, but I'd still run one 
lan to each for those outside of the box.

Backup software.  While you could back up the whole storage space using 
traditional os400 save commands to do individual objects we use TSM.  Thus 
no tape drives on the PC themselves are needed.  (which, like the disk 
drives, change so often that might come back to haunt you).

Failover?  Ping the pc from os/400; if it fails vary if off/on and try 
again?

But the management software, etc stay the same.

Rob Berendt
-- 
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary 
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." 
Benjamin Franklin 




Larry Bolhuis <lbolhuis@arbsol.com>
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Hmm lets see. FOUR servers each with a wad of wires, each with at least 
one 
(hopefully two) power supplies each needing backups, fixes (heaven KNOWS 
how 
often you must apply fixes/patches/updates/etc. to M$ software. Each needs 
a 
name and an IP or three and ports into the switch (usually two or more 
each) 
and of course rack space (sure it's 'just 1U' but it adds up). Each 
needing 
daily administration, watch for disk space and checking error logs some 
method 
of being backed up and tapes and drives etc. And I didn't see any 
redundant 
servers in the list. Oh Oh OH, you know each M$ machine needs a friend so 
soon 
it'll be 8 servers (double your pleasure) And each needs some way to tell 
you 
whether it's up or not and OH by the time you fail a drive (and you will) 
that 
drive won't be available any longer. So you'll look for all new ones and 
decide that replacing the entire server is cheaper but not compatible with 
the 
other three and so the cycle begins again....   Puleeeze! This is better 
how?

  - Larry

Walden H. Leverich III wrote:
>>Unreal...
> 
> 
> Why? Each being a 1U rackmount, it's not going to take much space. 
> 
> ------------
> Walden H Leverich III


> 
> Just had a meeting with some folks (including a person from Microsoft)
> wanting us to take a look at the Microsoft CRM product...
> 
> Guess what ? To do this we will ONLY need 4 (FOUR) additional servers...
> 
> One for the CRM package, one for Active Directory, one for Exchange and
> one for BizTalk...
 >
 > Unreal...
 >
 > Chuck

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