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We were waiting for a four year old who refused to go to sleep.  He was
waiting for "clatter"!

Al

Al Barsa, Jr.
Barsa Consulting Group, LLC

400>390

914-251-1234
914-251-9406 fax

http://www.barsaconsulting.com
http://www.taatool.com






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Gee Al, you were up late.  Let me guess 'Some assembly required'?

Rob Berendt
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin




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Merry Christmas, Neil.

Now go to bed.

Al

Al Barsa, Jr.
Barsa Consulting Group, LLC

400>390

914-251-1234
914-251-9406 fax

http://www.barsaconsulting.com
http://www.taatool.com






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Tape error stats on different types of drives can not be directly
compared.  Some drive types report very high temporary errors (QIC, 8mm),
but the error correction capabilities take care of that.  There was a
document I saw from IBM a few years ago listing what were acceptable
temporary error rates for different drive types, but I can't locate it
right now.

...Neil





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        cc:
        Subject:        RE: 25GB tape

I used to think the 25gb tapes were great.  We had someone go from 45
minutes to do a SAVSYS to 4.  However, we are getting a load of write
errors.  On the brand new tape drive from yesterday, (after running a
cleaning tape through it six times).
Volume          ---Temporary Errors---   --------K Bytes--------
ID                    Read       Write         Read      Written
1FRI12                   0        9383           11     13895287

We don't seem to get any errors on our 3590's or 3581's.  Perhaps IBM
follows the philosophy of "Money talks - (expletive deleted) walks."

IBM is coming in again today to replace the drive.  And we will get them
here on a daily basis if need be until they get the (expletive deleted)
working.

Rob Berendt


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