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<ahem>, folks, this is the AS400 newbie (18 year hp veteran), and I'd like to offer a different point. All of you speak of the AS400 in terms of it's 'better than anything else out there'...let's just clear that up quickly...it isn't. The AS400 has some cool stuff, DEC's Alpha has some cool stuff, hp's MPE/ix has some cool stuff, and UNIX has some cools stuff. All three of these proprietary OS's have things that they do better than their competitors, but not one of them reigns supreme overall...I can say this because I've worked with all three of 'em (a little UNIX too)...but we can leave it as IMHO. The most important point about these proprietary OS's is not what one does better than the other, rather, it's what all 3 have in common...they are proprietary OS's, and right now, that ain't good in the public eye. Let me explain, GM tried for years to shake the image of the Oldsmobile brand as an old fogies car, the slogan was "This is not your fathers' Oldsmobile". Try as they may, GM could not get the 'younger' generation to buy the Oldsmobile brand, and hence, GM is shutting that brand down. Oldsmobile's problem is our proprietary OS's problem...our OS's are perceived as old, and not up with the times, and unless something happens to change that mentality, then OS400 and DEC/VAX Alpha will go the way of the Oldsmobile along with MPE/ix (which has already been condemned by its owner, hp). The true irony in all of this is that UNIX is older than any of the three proprietatry OS's I've worked with, yet UNIX is perceived as new...HA!! Last, but by no means least, UNIX (and every other flavor of it) is for the most part, a free OS, and free is a hard price to compete with. Free is so lucrative that it allowed the creation and proliferation of a computer hardware company that had no OS...Sun Micro Systems (SCO UNIX is still a flavor of UNIX). Make no mistake about it, hp's MPE/ix OS is a fantastic OS (and IMAGE is a fantastic proprietary DB), but hp killed both in favor of hpux running on a commodity manufactured box...don't think for a minute that IBM isn't carefully watching hp's results. Because the success or failure of the demise of the hp3k, is also the barometer for the future of the AS400. NOTE: DEC's Alpha is already in the toaster since hp owns that too. :-( Ray Shahan "Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans", John Lennon > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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