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This is a multipart message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] As far as the PTF's were you talking about loading all cumes, and groups, while the system was running; and later doing the PWRDWNSYS to actually apply them? I suppose we could do that. That might help a little. What we've been doing, however is: - Get system to restricted state. - Do complete backup - Load all cumes and groups. - IPL. What we would be cutting out by loading the Cd's whilst the system was running would be about a half hour to an hour. For this advantage we would lose the complete save prior to the loading of the PTF's. This could be a problem. Because if you ever do a complete restore, and a ptf was in error, you'd have to do your restore, and a RMVPTF, prior to any IPL or you'd be back in the same boat. And after having a MF ptf just last week that invalidated my system password, I am not so anxious to do that. Comments? Rob Berendt -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin JOberholtzer@compures.com Sent by: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com 11/21/2002 01:20 PM Please respond to midrange-l To: midrange-l@midrange.com cc: Fax to: Subject: Re: Ops Console and LPAR <snip> We are looking at hooking up a separate twinax device for each partition. </snip> Our customers are about split on the console issue. The ones that do not have tight card configurations for the LPARs driving them to add additional IOPs (and potentially additional towers) are opting for Twinaxial consoles, because they always work. Ops console is also very good, and I won't hesitate to use it, but it does rely on Windoze communications. If you have the room for an additional ethernet card, I would go with the best of all worlds. Use Twinaxial console, and LAN console. That way you can have an honest console at your desk for all four partitions, and use twinaxial when needed. When you VPN into the network from home, you should have all of the function that you would normally need as well. Regarding your down time to apply PTFs. Why not apply all of them at one time? Since you have correctly pointed out that you have to power down the secondary LPARs when you IPL the primary, why not do them all at once? One other thought. You will need to get very good with Management Central and all of iSeries Navigator. That is where the action is for most of the administration things you will be needing. One last thought, do not let anyone talk you out of the thin primary partition. (one that only manages the machine, and has no user workload). Believe me it is the best way to go. Jim Oberholtzer Senior Technical Architect Computech Resources, Inc. Phone: 262/785-8111 _______________________________________________ This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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