Re: OS/400 command set

We use CSC for our insurance rating software on the AS/400.

hey moved pritn off the AS/400 and onto a PC which has caused tons of
headaches.

Their iSolutions product which lets you tie in a gui interface (which is
jsut a jacada server runnign on NT that rewrites the green screens) to their
print system and viw archived print as PDFs requires you to run NT AND an
IIS server.

Total crap.  And we can't really say anythign about it if e want that
functionality because 1) we are a small shop and 2) it is NOT easy changing
vendors.

Our vendor was PMSC then they hanged to Mynd and then bought by CSC.

Apparently they don't "get it".  Up until a month ago I had an AS/40 and ALL
linux servers back here.  Now I have an additional NT serer with a couple
more probably coming down the pike.

Thsi blows.  Also, they are using Oracle for their database on the NT
servers.

How much sense does it make?  All their clients run AS/400 for the insurance
app.  Why introduce new tech that runs on NT when obviosuly all their cients
have AS/400 and knwo it?  And WHY use Oracle?  Why not use DB2 since all
their clients are runnign AS/400s?

Why nto develop on Websphere on the AS/400?

Why take print off the AS/400? And you knwo what they did?  They don't even
use Windows spooling.  They emrge data and forms together and create several
big PCL files and do a copy /b myfile lpt2:

So if print bombs, you can't pick up where ya left off.

Adam Lang
Systems Engineer
Rutgers Casualty Insurance Company
http://www.rutgersinsurance.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck Lewis" <clewis@iquest.net>
To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 3:41 PM
Subject: RE: OS/400 command set


> And I sort of started all of this and have been pretty much silent today
but
> reading everything because I have been busy with a major project we have
in
> the works. It includes the purchase of a new 820 to replace our aging 620
> AND an additional 270. I have been going around with our BP/Software
> provider, or rather the sales guy for the BP, who is pushing an NT server
in
> place of the 270 because it is cheaper !
>
> Luckily our CFO is in love with the AS/400 and the one additional IT
person
> we have here (just started a couple of months ago and had no real
knowledge
> of the box) is in love with it too ! So on our conference call today I had
> to point out the age old mantra that TCO has to be considered (among a
bunch
> of other things in my book; those in a minute). That SURE the NT Server is
> cheaper up front but what about long term ? And he finally agrees but we
are
> still puzzled as to where the heck he is coming from... This 270 vs NT
> server is to be the front end into a web e-commerce product they sell with
> the 820 being the production system. We have NO existing NT server and
while
> I have been an NT and Novell admin in the past, I have no real interest in
> resuming that role with everything else I'm doing right now and we are
under
> mandate to hire no more IT folks for the time being. So, hmmm, add an NT
> server for this one app, constantly worry about it being the gateway to
the
> web, etc. or put the 270 out there and let it run and run and run...
>
> But at least I am winning this battle :-)
>
> Chuck
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com
> [mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Dr Syd Nicholson
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:15 PM
> To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> Subject: Re: OS/400 command set
>
>
> One of the reasons my client uses iSeries is because they do not want
> the costs/downtime associated with may other alternatives.
>
> I think one of the biggest battles the iSeries has with other systems is
> the hype. There is a lot of hype for alternative systems, but nowhere
> near enough for the iSeries. Most non-iSeries companies have never even
> heard of the machine
>
> There is also lot of negative hype put out by the supporters of
> alternative systems and very little seems to be done to refute it, IMHO.
>
> There I go - jumping on Joe's bandwagon. Now we can both rant.
>
> Syd
>
>
> Mike Haston ** Data wrote:
>
> >Amazing.  I'm no marketing guy (thank goodness), but why wouldn't IBM
make
> >one of their clever little commercials outlining what is in the example
> >below?  I'll have to save this snippet for my buddies that told me not to
> >get into the 400 world five years ago because it was dead! <vbg>
> >
> >This is especially humorous to me because I'm hearing the horror stories
> >from my last shop that is going from the 400 to run SAP on Sun boxes.
> >Twenty boxes to replace one iSeries.  A Unix person, an Oracle DBA and
all
> >they hear is operations on the phone saying "we have servers down"!
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Dr Syd Nicholson [mailto:sydnic@ccs400.com]
> >Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 1:43 PM
> >To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> >Subject: Re: OS/400 command set
> >
>
>
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