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As a BP, we cannot use our support line contract for customer problems.  We
do not sell systems without a support line contract.

Al

Al Barsa, Jr.
Barsa Consulting Group, LLC

400>390

914-251-1234
914-251-9406 fax

http://www.barsaconsulting.com
http://www.taatool.com






                      "Carl Galgano"
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<midrange-l@midrange.com>
                      ulting.com>               cc:
                      Sent by:                  Subject:  RE: How to submit an 
APAR
                      midrange-l-admin@m
                      idrange.com


                      06/25/2002 11:22
                      AM
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I thought you were a business partner Al?  If one of your customers had
an APAR to submit, couldn't you do it on their behalf?
cjg

Carl J. Galgano
EDI Consulting Services, Inc.
550 Kennesaw Avenue, Suite 800
Marietta, GA  30060
(770) 422-2995 - voice
(419) 730-8212 - fax
mailto:cgalgano@ediconsulting.com
http://www.ediconsulting.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com
[mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com] On Behalf Of Al Barsa
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 11:19 AM
To: midrange-l@midrange.com
Subject: RE: How to submit an APAR



I don't know it, because I have voice support.

Al

Al Barsa, Jr.
Barsa Consulting Group, LLC

400>390

914-251-1234
914-251-9406 fax

http://www.barsaconsulting.com
http://www.taatool.com






                      "Carl Galgano"
                      <cgalgano2@edicons        To:
<midrange-l@midrange.com>
                      ulting.com>               cc:
                      Sent by:                  Subject:  RE: How to
submit an APAR
                      midrange-l-admin@m
                      idrange.com


                      06/25/2002 10:07
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Hi Al, thanks.  Do you an email address I can send to?  All I am looking
for is to mail a tape to IBM.  Shouldn't the business partner be able to
help? cjg

Carl J. Galgano
EDI Consulting Services, Inc.
550 Kennesaw Avenue, Suite 800
Marietta, GA  30060
(770) 422-2995 - voice
(419) 730-8212 - fax
mailto:cgalgano@ediconsulting.com
http://www.ediconsulting.com
AS400 EDI, Networking, E-Commerce and Communications Consulting and
Implementation http://www.icecreamovernight.com Premium Ice Cream Brands
shipped Overnight

"You ain't gonna learn what you don't want to know" - rw

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com
[mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com] On Behalf Of Al Barsa
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 10:02 AM
To: midrange-l@midrange.com
Subject: RE: How to submit an APAR



The "warrantee" does not give you voice support.  It allows you to send
an e-mail or fax to IBM, for which they have "n" hours to get back to
you.

If it's a bug that affects you only, rots-of-ruck.  If it affects IBM's
intellectual property, you might even get a phone call back.

Al

Al Barsa, Jr.
Barsa Consulting Group, LLC

400>390

914-251-1234
914-251-9406 fax

http://www.barsaconsulting.com
http://www.taatool.com






                      "Carl Galgano"
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<midrange-l@midrange.com>
                      ulting.com>               cc:       "Ashley
Waters" <awaters@frostyacres.com>
                      Sent by:                  Subject:  RE: How to
submit an APAR
                      midrange-l-admin@m
                      idrange.com


                      06/25/2002 09:53
                      AM
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Should this not be covered under the warrantee of the OS license? cjg

Carl J. Galgano
EDI Consulting Services, Inc.
550 Kennesaw Avenue, Suite 800
Marietta, GA  30060
(770) 422-2995 - voice
(419) 730-8212 - fax
mailto:cgalgano@ediconsulting.com
http://www.ediconsulting.com
AS400 EDI, Networking, E-Commerce and Communications Consulting and
Implementation http://www.icecreamovernight.com Premium Ice Cream Brands
shipped Overnight

"You ain't gonna learn what you don't want to know" - rw

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com
[mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com] On Behalf Of Kirk Goins
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 7:39 PM
To: midrange-l@midrange.com
Subject: RE: How to submit an APAR


I wish you luck. Try (800) 237-5511 which is the SW support number. With
out a SW support contract IBM most likely won't even talk to them. They
may have to sign at least an hourly contract.

__________________________________________________
Kirk Goins
IBM Certified iSeries Technical Solutions Expert
Pacific Information Systems - An IBM Business Partner
503-674-2985           kirkg@pacinfosys.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Carl Galgano [mailto:cgalgano2@ediconsulting.com]
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 3:26 PM
To: Midrange List
Subject: How to submit an APAR


I have a client who has been getting lots of errors in their SMTP server
job and logs a software problem in WRKPRB.  Running the analysis always
says it is an application error of some sort (100% chance) and the
program is an IBM system object in QSYS.  I have reported the problem
via ECS (3 times now over the past 6 months) to see if there is an
available PTF for the issue.  (The client is on V5R1 and has all the
latest PTFs related to SMTP and TCP).  I always get a response that, the
problem has not been reported before, and I should submit an APAR.  So I
finally followed the directions on the screen and saved the requested
object to an APAR library and saved the library to tape.

As usual, here is where the fun begins.  I contacted the Business
Partner who sold the box to the client, and she directed me to a web
site.  The website requires a user name and password.  She also
suggested I call 800-IBM-SERV, but the person I spoke to there had no
idea what an APAR was, could not decide it I need to talk to hardware or
software support (the client does not have IBM maintenance).  After
messing with her on the phone for quite a while, I thought I would ask
the experts.   So...... How the heck do you submit an APAR tape?????

This SHOULD be simple, but since it involves IBM, it is not.

Once again, thanks in advance to all who can help.
cjg

Carl J. Galgano
EDI Consulting Services, Inc.
550 Kennesaw Avenue, Suite 800
Marietta, GA  30060
(770) 422-2995 - voice
(419) 730-8212 - fax
mailto:cgalgano@ediconsulting.com
http://www.ediconsulting.com
AS400 EDI, Networking, E-Commerce and Communications Consulting and
Implementation http://www.icecreamovernight.com Premium Ice Cream Brands
shipped Overnight

"You ain't gonna learn what you don't want to know" - rw


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