Re: MIDRANGE-L digest, Vol 1 #2051 - 5 msgs

Rob,

Right now we don't get anything but old OSes can do a lot of good but I
agree with you that IBM should make current OS available.  In the interim
one can develop about anything with V4xx and bring it up to V5 with previous
version support.

Dare

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Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: MIDRANGE-L digest, Vol 1 #2051 - 5 msgs


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> IBM is trying to encourage development in the new technologies.  I see no
> reason to develop using obsoleted software.  This just propagates the
> problem many users have when their software houses stick with ancient
> versions of OS instead of using newer code.
> I would be against IBM giving out older versions of OS for developers.
>
> Rob Berendt
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> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
> Benjamin Franklin
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> "Dare" <oludare@ix.netcom.com>
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> Anne, my responses below inline.
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> Dare
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> From: "Anne Lucas" <alucas@us.ibm.com>
> To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:54 PM
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> > Dare, I've responded to your comments in call caps....
> >
> > *****************
> > There are some questions I will like to ask and a few things to say:
> >
> > QUESTIONS
> > ==========
> > Do we have IBM's ears on this List?   YOU BET YOU DO!
> >
> > If we do, does IBM think some of the issues we address in this List
> warrant
> > response?  YES ... I'VE FORWARDED THE COMMENTS TO THE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE
> >
> > Can someone or people closer to IBM or IBM itself give us a clear and
> > truthful answer on where AS/400 is going?   CHECK OUT THE iSERIES NATION
> > PAGE ATTACHED... BILL ZEITLER MAKES IT VERY CLEAR WHERE iSERIES IS
> > GOING....
> >
>
http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/iseries/nation/events/event_exec_perspe
> ctive_042302.html
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> I was at the site and I don't see anything convincing or SOLID. Some
> ACTION
> pls, it speaks louder than voice.
>
>
> >
> > If IBM sees a future for the AS/400 can IBM look us in the eyes and
> explain
> > their plan or lack of in the past and present?  YES ... ZEITLER DID
>
> No he didn't talk about lack of PAST, PRESENT and FUTURE inadequate
> MARKETING strategy for the AS/400 iSeries.
> AS/400 didn't even get a jersey in the eServer TV ad...
>
> >
> > How is IBM going to expand the market for the AS/400, by not having
> > marketing plan and no attractive developers' incentive approach.   WE DO
> > HAVE A VERY AGGRESSIVE MARKETING PLAN... AND REMEMBER A MARKETING PLAN
> HAS
> > SEVERAL PIECES TO IT....AND WE ARE WORKING DILIGENTLY ON DEVELOPER
> > INCENTIVES
>
> Again, what PIECES, show us some action and we will become BELIEVERS!!!
>
> >
> > I will be interested in knowing the detail patent information on
> software
> > as
> > it relates to OS400?    TELL ME MORE OF WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR, PLEASE
>
> I was just thinking if IBM could find it in it's heart to let developers
> have access to outdated OSes (up to V4xx) and systems (up to 7xx series)
> and
> CA with ftp archives of PTFs and CUMs (all available fixes).
>
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