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Developer Lease to 1.75%????

We had been seriously considering getting a system under this lease - the
rise to 1.75% has put it out of reach.

Maybe Al can afford it, but we can't.  It is not just the cost of the
machine, but also the software that you have to consider.  I suspect that Al
has a high enough membership level in PartnerWorld that he gets most of the
software on these systems free-of-charge.

I agree with the sentiments of others on this list that at a time when IBM
are supposedly trying to attract developers to the platform this is an
idiotic move.

Jon Paris
Partner400



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>    1. RE: E-mail problems (Andy Nolen-Parkhouse)
>    2. Re: Custom Command (Ed Fishel)
>    3. Re: E-mail problems (John Ross)
>    4. Date and Time on Page Seperators (Brad Stone)
>    5. Developer Lease to 1.75%???? (Walden H. Leverich)
>    6. Re: Developer Lease to 1.75%???? (Booth Martin)
>    7. RE: Developer Lease to 1.75%???? (Walden H. Leverich)
>    8. RE: E-mail problems (Justin Houchin)
>    9. Re: Developer Lease to 1.75%???? (Glenn Ericson)
>   10. RE: E-mail problems (Justin Houchin)
>   11. Re: Developer Lease to 1.75%???? (Al Barsa)
>   12. Re: Developer Lease to 1.75%???? (Dare)
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 1
> From: "Andy Nolen-Parkhouse" <aparkhouse@attbi.com>
> To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
> Subject: RE: E-mail problems
> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 09:05:57 -0400
> Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com
>
> Justin,
>
> Can you describe the routing between your PC and the AS/400?  Can you
> connect by domain name from PC to AS/400?  Is your AS/400 configured to
> use DNS or local addresses first?  What is your internal DNS
> configuration and AS/400 host table entries?  Reliatek.com is a valid
> address on the internet, yet it doesn't seem to have an MX record, will
> mail get to you at 68.59.64.83?
>
> 'WWW' is a fairly unusual host name, is that what you really wanted?
>
> At first glance, it looks more like a routing issue than an AS/400
> configuration issue.
>
> Regards,
> Andy Nolen-Parkhouse
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 2
> Subject: Re: Custom Command
> To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> From: "Ed Fishel" <edfishel@us.ibm.com>
> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 08:17:01 -0500
> Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com
>
>
> Jim,
>
> Several functions within the system use the SBMJOB command. By replacing
> the SBMJOB command in QSYS with your own SBMJOB command you run
> the risk of
> causing some of those functions to fail. A safer idea may be to use a
> Command Analyzer Change Command Exit program. This exit program is new in
> V4R5 and will work at all security levels.
>
> This exit program will allow you to check command parameters and based on
> the current user profile change the command and pass it back to
> the system.
> Take a look at these URLs for more information.
> http://www.iseriesnetwork.com/resources/artarchive/index.cfm?fusea
> ction=viewarticle&CO_ContentID=9920&channel=art
>
> http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/pubs/html/as400/v4r5/ic2924/index.ht
> m?info/apis/xcachg.htm
>
>
> Ed Fishel,
> edfishel@US.IBM.COM
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 09:05:40 -0500
> To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> From: John Ross <jross-ml@netshare400.com>
> Subject: Re: E-mail problems
> Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com
>
>
> >To: <jhouchin@reliatek.com>
> >
> >    SMTP user ID  . . . . . .   JUSTIN
> >    SMTP domain . . . . . . .   RELIATEK.COM
>
> change to jhouchin  and if that does not work try www.reliatek.com
>
> It is not a problem with finding the AS400 it is not finding who
> to deliver
> it to.
>
> You also need to look at the PTF's for open relay NOW, your AS400 is one
>
> http://www-912.ibm.com/a_dir/as4ptf.NSF/a18db68aae4a7d81862566ba00
> 5d145c/b5b3d9637b5020ae862568fe0047af64?OpenDocument&Highlight=2,r
> elay,smtp,qusrsys
>   see   Special instructions for controlling Relay and CONNECTIONS
>
> John Ross
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 4
> From: "Brad Stone" <brad@bvstools.com>
> Subject: Date and Time on Page Seperators
> To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 09:11:33 -0500
> Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com
>
> Hello!
>
> Does anyone know where the date and time on page seperators
> come from?
>
> I have a customer using one of my products to duplicate
> spooled files and the date and time on the page seperator
> tend to be odd dates and we can't find a definite pattern.
> I thought it was job date and time.  But, that doesn't
> appear to be the case.
>
> The customer says when he submits the job, the date can be
> in the past (like 3 months).  but, if run interactivley, it
> seems to be his job date.  (which seems odd).
>
> The IBM docs are pretty vague on this subject.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Brad
> www.bvstools.com
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 5
> From: "Walden H. Leverich" <WaldenL@TechSoftInc.com>
> To: "'midrange-l@midrange.com'" <midrange-l@midrange.com>
> Subject: Developer Lease to 1.75%????
> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 10:54:34 -0400
> Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com
>
> I just got the following in an e-mail from IBM, this is a joke, right?
>
> "Effective June 7th, the lease rate for the developer lease offering will
> change to 1.75% of list price.  The affected platforms are, iSeries,
> pSeries, Storage Systems and Retail Store Systems (Point of Sale).  The
> lease term duration is 24 months with no early termination option."
>
> The last thing IBM should be doing is making it harder for software
> developers to get a machine and stay current on it. Does anying have any
> insight into this?
>
> -Walden
>
> ------------
> Walden H Leverich III
> President
> Tech Software
> (516) 627-3800 x11
> (208) 692-3308 eFax
> WaldenL@TechSoftInc.com
> http://www.TechSoftInc.com
>
> Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
> (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 11:03:33 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
> From: "Booth Martin" <Booth@MartinVT.com>
> To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
> Subject: Re: Developer Lease to 1.75%????
> Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com
>
> --
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
>
>
> Wasn't it 2% before?  That's an attractive rate isn't it?  1.75% of a $25
> 000 system is... $450/month? On the face of it that sounds
> reasonable to me.
>
> -----------------------------------------------
> Booth Martin
> Booth@MartinVT.com
> http://www.MartinVT.com
> -----------------------------------------------
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: midrange-l@midrange.com
> Date: Monday, June 10, 2002 10:56:04 AM
> To: 'midrange-l@midrange.com'
> Subject: Developer Lease to 1.75%????
>
> I just got the following in an e-mail from IBM, this is a joke, right?
>
> "Effective June 7th, the lease rate for the developer lease offering will
> change to 1.75% of list price. The affected platforms are, iSeries,
> pSeries, Storage Systems and Retail Store Systems (Point of Sale). The
> lease term duration is 24 months with no early termination option."
>
> The last thing IBM should be doing is making it harder for software
> developers to get a machine and stay current on it. Does anying have any
> insight into this?
>
> -Walden
>
> ------------
> Walden H Leverich III
> President
> Tech Software
> (516) 627-3800 x11
> (208) 692-3308 eFax
> WaldenL@TechSoftInc.com
> http://www.TechSoftInc.com
>
> Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
> (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)
> --
> [ Content of type image/gif deleted ]
> --
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 7
> From: "Walden H. Leverich" <WaldenL@TechSoftInc.com>
> To: "'midrange-l@midrange.com'" <midrange-l@midrange.com>
> Subject: RE: Developer Lease to 1.75%????
> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 11:09:51 -0400
> Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com
>
> Actually it was 1% before. ICC (um, IGF) couldn't handle a 1% lease so it
> was written as a 2% lease of a 50% discount, but at the end of
> the day that
> is 1%. Also, the previous lease was a 24 month lease with a 12
> month opt out
> so you could stay more current.
>
> -Walden
>
>
> ------------
> Walden H Leverich III
> President
> Tech Software
> (516) 627-3800 x11
> (208) 692-3308 eFax
> WaldenL@TechSoftInc.com
> http://www.TechSoftInc.com
>
> Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
> (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Booth Martin [mailto:Booth@MartinVT.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 11:04
> To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> Subject: Re: Developer Lease to 1.75%????
>
>
> --
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
>
>
> Wasn't it 2% before?  That's an attractive rate isn't it?  1.75% of a $25
> 000 system is... $450/month? On the face of it that sounds
> reasonable to me.
>
> -----------------------------------------------
> Booth Martin
> Booth@MartinVT.com
> http://www.MartinVT.com
> -----------------------------------------------
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: midrange-l@midrange.com
> Date: Monday, June 10, 2002 10:56:04 AM
> To: 'midrange-l@midrange.com'
> Subject: Developer Lease to 1.75%????
>
> I just got the following in an e-mail from IBM, this is a joke, right?
>
> "Effective June 7th, the lease rate for the developer lease offering will
> change to 1.75% of list price. The affected platforms are,
> iSeries, pSeries,
> Storage Systems and Retail Store Systems (Point of Sale). The lease term
> duration is 24 months with no early termination option."
>
> The last thing IBM should be doing is making it harder for software
> developers to get a machine and stay current on it. Does anying have any
> insight into this?
>
> -Walden
>
> ------------
> Walden H Leverich III
> President
> Tech Software
> (516) 627-3800 x11
> (208) 692-3308 eFax
> WaldenL@TechSoftInc.com
> http://www.TechSoftInc.com
>
> Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
> (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)
> --
> [ Content of type image/gif deleted ]
> --
>
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>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 10:14:34 -0500
> From: Justin Houchin <jhouchin9@charter.net>
> Subject: RE: E-mail problems
> To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com
>
> Reliatek.com is our domain. It relates to 68.59.64.83 which is our
> external IPaddress. Charter.net is my home ISP provider. Yes I am behind
> a router that passes all ports to my as400 which is 192.168.0.6. I have
> no additional firewall setup besides the NAT.
>
> Justin Houchin
> Programmer
> ReliaTek, Inc
> jhouchin9@charter.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com
> [mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com] On Behalf Of Philipp Rusch
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 7:42 AM
> To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> Subject: Re: E-mail problems
>
> Hello Justin,
>
> ALthough the headers you supplied are incomplete in some way,  ;-)
> I guess that youre mailer is not realizing which domains are local.
> What is charter.net and what is reliatek.com ?
> Which of these  is intended to be locally available and what kind
> of DNS-setup do you have ?
> How is your AS/400 connected to the network / internet ?
> Ok, I see you got private addresses like 192.168.0.x and I guess
> that you have some king of NAT on a router or did  you setup a
> firewall/proxy-system and some kind of smart host for mail.
>
> Give us some more info and we will be able to help you.
>
> Regards from germany, Philipp Rusch
>
>
> Justin Houchin schrieb:
>
> > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > Hi everyone,
> >             I hope I am in the right mailing list. I have just set my
> > as400 up to act as our e-mail server. From Microsoft Outlook, I can
> send
> > an e-mail using the 400, but when I go to send an e-mail to the 400. I
> > get this error message..
> >
> > NOT ABLE TO DELIVER MAIL TO SOME/ALL RECIPIENTS.
> > REPLY CODES WITH FIRST DIGIT = '4' OR '5' ARE ERROR REPLIES. ERRORS
> THAT
> > DO NOT HAVE ERROR REPLY CODES MAY EXIST.
> >
> > HOST www NOT ABLE TO DELIVER MAIL TO FOLLOWING RECIPIENT(S):
> >    <jhouchin@reliatek.com>
> > RETRIES EXHAUSTED WHILE ATTEMPTING TO CONNECT TO REMOTE HOST reliatek.
> >
> >              ** TEXT OF MAIL FOLLOWS **
> > Received: from
> >
> dc-mx14.cluster1.charter.net(dc-mx14.cluster1.charter.net[209.225.8.24])
> > by WWW.RELIATEK.COM (IBM OS/400 SMTP V04R05M00) with TCP; Sun,  9 Jun
> > 2002 21:12:07 +0000
> > Received: from [24.216.233.67] (HELO jhhome)
> >   by dc-mx14.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9)
> >   with SMTP id 57827593 for jhouchin@reliatek.com; Sun, 09 Jun 2002
> > 22:11:36 -0400
> > Message-ID: <002d01c21024$254a5250$0200a8c0@jhhome>
> > From: "Justin & Michelle Houchin" <jhouchin9@charter.net>
> > To: <jhouchin@reliatek.com>
> > Subject: did you get this
> > Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 21:11:34 -0500
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
> >       boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002A_01C20FFA.3C2C6BE0"
> > X-Priority: 3
> > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
> > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
> >
> > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> >
> > ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C20FFA.3C2C6BE0
> > Content-Type: text/plain;
> >       charset="iso-8859-1"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> >
> > ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C20FFA.3C2C6BE0
> > Content-Type: text/html;
> >       charset="iso-8859-1"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> >
> > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> > <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
> > charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2716.2200"
> > name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
> > <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML>
> >
> > ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C20FFA.3C2C6BE0-
> >
> > www.reliatek.com <http://www.reliatek.com/>  is the e-mail domain that
> I
> > am using. Here is my configurations...
> >                         Change TCP/IP Domain (CHGTCPDMN)
> >
> >  Type choices, press Enter.
> >
> >  Host name  . . . . . . . . . . .   'www'
> >
> >  Domain name  . . . . . . . . . .   'reliatek.com'
> >
> >  Host name search priority  . . .   *REMOTE       *REMOTE, *LOCAL,
> *SAME
> >
> >  Domain name server:
> >
> >    Internet address . . . . . . .   '192.168.0.1'
> >
> >                       Work with TCP/IP Host Table Entries
> >
> >                                                              System:
> > RTEK
> >  Type options, press Enter.
> >
> >    1=Add   2=Change   4=Remove   5=Display   7=Rename
> >
> >       Internet         Host
> >
> >  Opt  Address          Name
> >
> >       127.0.0.1        LOOPBACK
> >
> >                        LOCALHOST
> >
> >       192.168.0.6      www.reliatek.com
> >
> > I have setup the directory entry...INTERNET  SMTPRTE   UserID to send
> to
> > Internet
> >
> > I directory entry for my e-mail address is Justin@reliatek.com
> > The configuration is .
> >
> >  User ID/Address . . . . :   justin      RTEK
> >
> >  Type changes, press Enter.
> >
> >    Description . . . . . .   justin user
> >
> >    System name/Group . . .   RTEK                   F4 for list
> >
> >    User profile  . . . . .   justin                 F4 for list
> >
> >    Network user ID . . . .   justin     RTEK
> >
> >    Mail service level = 2
> >    Preferred address = 3
> >
> >  User ID/Address . . . . . :   JUSTIN     RTEK
> >
> >  Type choices, press Enter.
> >
> >    SMTP user ID  . . . . . .   JUSTIN
> >
> >    SMTP domain . . . . . . .   RELIATEK.COM
> >
> >    SMTP route  . . . . . . .
> >
> > I have checked in the qsyswrk sbs and the MSF,POP,SMTP jobs are
> running
> > with no escape messages, and there are no messages in the QSYSOPR. I
> can
> > also use SNDDST to send a message from the 400. I just can send a
> > message to the 400. It won't store any e-mails. Thanks for the
> help!!!!
> >
> > Justin Houchin
> > Programmer
> > ReliaTek, Inc
> > jhouchin9@charter.net
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> --__--__--
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 11:13:55 -0400
> To: midrange-l@midrange.com, <midrange-l@midrange.com>
> From: Glenn Ericson <Glenn-Ericson@att.net>
> Subject: Re: Developer Lease to 1.75%????
> Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com
>
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> Want to try 1%?
>   This is  a big  jump  with  change in lease terms
>
> At 11:03 AM 06/10/2002 -0400, Booth Martin wrote:
> >--
> >--
> >[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> >
> >
> >Wasn't it 2% before?  That's an attractive rate isn't it?  1.75% of a $25
> >000 system is... $450/month? On the face of it that sounds
> reasonable to me.
> >
> >-----------------------------------------------
> >Booth Martin
> >Booth@MartinVT.com
> >http://www.MartinVT.com
> >-----------------------------------------------
> >-------Original Message-------
> >
> >From: midrange-l@midrange.com
> >Date: Monday, June 10, 2002 10:56:04 AM
> >To: 'midrange-l@midrange.com'
> >Subject: Developer Lease to 1.75%????
> >
> >I just got the following in an e-mail from IBM, this is a joke, right?
> >
> >"Effective June 7th, the lease rate for the developer lease offering will
> >change to 1.75% of list price. The affected platforms are, iSeries,
> >pSeries, Storage Systems and Retail Store Systems (Point of Sale). The
> >lease term duration is 24 months with no early termination option."
> >
> >The last thing IBM should be doing is making it harder for software
> >developers to get a machine and stay current on it. Does anying have any
> >insight into this?
> >
> >-Walden
> >
> >------------
> >Walden H Leverich III
> >President
> >Tech Software
> >(516) 627-3800 x11
> >(208) 692-3308 eFax
> >WaldenL@TechSoftInc.com
> >http://www.TechSoftInc.com
> >
> >Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
> >(Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)
> >--
> >[ Content of type image/gif deleted ]
> >--
> >
> >_______________________________________________
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>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 10:20:03 -0500
> From: Justin Houchin <jhouchin9@charter.net>
> Subject: RE: E-mail problems
> To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com
>
> I can connect by domain name to the AS400 from outside of my network.
> For some reason, if I try to do this from the inside(of router) I get
> the routers admin page. I think this is a routing issue. Should I change
> I Domain Name Server Address to the external address of our ISP's DNS
> Server instead of the router's IP address? I am using "www" because I
> have not setup "mail" yet. And doesn't it work the same way. Our
> webserver is the same ip address as is our e-mail server. So I should be
> able to use www.relaitek.com for both, right????
>
> Change TCP/IP Domain (CHGTCPDMN)
>
>
>  Type choices, press Enter.
>
>
>
>  Host name  . . . . . . . . . . .   'www'
>
>
>
>  Domain name  . . . . . . . . . .   'reliatek.com'
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  Host name search priority  . . .   *REMOTE       *REMOTE, *LOCAL, *SAME
>
>  Domain name server:
>
>    Internet address . . . . . . .   '192.168.0.1'
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Justin Houchin
> Programmer
> ReliaTek, Inc
> jhouchin9@charter.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com
> [mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com] On Behalf Of Andy Nolen-Parkhouse
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 8:06 AM
> To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> Subject: RE: E-mail problems
>
> Justin,
>
> Can you describe the routing between your PC and the AS/400?  Can you
> connect by domain name from PC to AS/400?  Is your AS/400 configured to
> use DNS or local addresses first?  What is your internal DNS
> configuration and AS/400 host table entries?  Reliatek.com is a valid
> address on the internet, yet it doesn't seem to have an MX record, will
> mail get to you at 68.59.64.83?
>
> 'WWW' is a fairly unusual host name, is that what you really wanted?
>
> At first glance, it looks more like a routing issue than an AS/400
> configuration issue.
>
> Regards,
> Andy Nolen-Parkhouse
>
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> Message: 11
> Subject: Re: Developer Lease to 1.75%????
> To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> From: "Al Barsa" <barsa@barsaconsulting.com>
> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 11:22:58 -0400
> Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com
>
>
> IBM has been literally giving away these machines, and (even though I have
> several systems leased this way) I don't think that this is unreasonable.
>
> Al
>
> Al Barsa, Jr.
> Barsa Consulting Group, LLC
>
> 400>390
>
> 914-251-1234
> 914-251-9406 fax
>
> http://www.barsaconsulting.com
> http://www.taatool.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>                       "Walden H.
>                       Leverich"                 To:
> "'midrange-l@midrange.com'" <midrange-l@midrange.com>
>                       <WaldenL@TechSoftI        cc:
>                       nc.com>                   Subject:
> Developer Lease to 1.75%????
>                       Sent by:
>                       midrange-l-admin@m
>                       idrange.com
>
>
>                       06/10/2002 10:54
>                       AM
>                       Please respond to
>                       midrange-l
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I just got the following in an e-mail from IBM, this is a joke, right?
>
> "Effective June 7th, the lease rate for the developer lease offering will
> change to 1.75% of list price.  The affected platforms are, iSeries,
> pSeries, Storage Systems and Retail Store Systems (Point of Sale).  The
> lease term duration is 24 months with no early termination option."
>
> The last thing IBM should be doing is making it harder for software
> developers to get a machine and stay current on it. Does anying have any
> insight into this?
>
> -Walden
>
> ------------
> Walden H Leverich III
> President
> Tech Software
> (516) 627-3800 x11
> (208) 692-3308 eFax
> WaldenL@TechSoftInc.com
> http://www.TechSoftInc.com
>
> Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
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> Message: 12
> From: "Dare" <oludare@ix.netcom.com>
> To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
> Subject: Re: Developer Lease to 1.75%????
> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 11:24:55 -0400
> Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com
>
> Speak 4 yourself Al.  Not all developers have the type of
> financial support
> you have.  I agree that it is a good price still but with the problem of
> iSeries IBM can do better if they won't spend on advertisement.
>
> Dare
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Al Barsa" <barsa@barsaconsulting.com>
> To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 11:22 AM
> Subject: Re: Developer Lease to 1.75%????
>
>
> >
> > IBM has been literally giving away these machines, and (even
> though I have
> > several systems leased this way) I don't think that this is
> unreasonable.
> >
> > Al
> >
> > Al Barsa, Jr.
> > Barsa Consulting Group, LLC
> >
> > 400>390
> >
> > 914-251-1234
> > 914-251-9406 fax
> >
> > http://www.barsaconsulting.com
> > http://www.taatool.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                       "Walden H.
> >                       Leverich"                 To:
> "'midrange-l@midrange.com'" <midrange-l@midrange.com>
> >                       <WaldenL@TechSoftI        cc:
> >                       nc.com>                   Subject:
> Developer Lease
> to 1.75%????
> >                       Sent by:
> >                       midrange-l-admin@m
> >                       idrange.com
> >
> >
> >                       06/10/2002 10:54
> >                       AM
> >                       Please respond to
> >                       midrange-l
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I just got the following in an e-mail from IBM, this is a joke, right?
> >
> > "Effective June 7th, the lease rate for the developer lease
> offering will
> > change to 1.75% of list price.  The affected platforms are, iSeries,
> > pSeries, Storage Systems and Retail Store Systems (Point of Sale).  The
> > lease term duration is 24 months with no early termination option."
> >
> > The last thing IBM should be doing is making it harder for software
> > developers to get a machine and stay current on it. Does anying have any
> > insight into this?
> >
> > -Walden
> >
> > ------------
> > Walden H Leverich III
> > President
> > Tech Software
> > (516) 627-3800 x11
> > (208) 692-3308 eFax
> > WaldenL@TechSoftInc.com
> > http://www.TechSoftInc.com
> >
> > Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
> > (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)
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