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Don, With all due respect, there was a lot more to V5R2 than the Model 890. Capacity Upgrade On Demand is now SOP for models 830 and 840, and IBM repositioned models 270 and 820 with pricing actions. In addition, two very interesting new technology's that are a part of V5R2 include Independent ASPs for the QSYS.LIB library system (and you thought that backup was tough to navigate before - forget about it) and one signon across platforms with EIM. Also IBM reacted to industry pressure and accelerated the release of V5R2 by several weeks Al Barsa, Jr. Barsa Consulting Group, LLC 400>390 914-251-1234 914-251-9406 fax http://www.barsaconsulting.com http://www.taatool.com |---------+-----------------------------> | | Don | | | <dr2@cssas400.com>| | | Sent by: | | | midrange-l-admin@m| | | idrange.com | | | | | | | | | 06/03/2002 10:23 | | | AM | | | Please respond to | | | midrange-l | | | | |---------+-----------------------------> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: Al Barsa <barsa@barsaconsulting.com> | | cc: midrange-l@midrange.com | | Subject: Re: Boise Idaho User Group? | >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| Al's got a very good point, and I'll go futher. Look at the latest announcement as an example. What was the announcement? >From MOST users perspective, it was soley the 890. Now, how many people do you know that are going to buy a 890? It totally ignored the rest of the stuff in 5.2... Further, as pointed out by Al and many others of us, IBM is failing to maintain interest in OS/400...not only from a end user basis, but from a developers and industry basis. Frankly, people that are doing alot of the new and sexy stuff are doing it on a unix or windows platform. They see the OS/400 based system as very expensive dinosaurs and since they are being readily and constantly being made aware of the plethora of options that are NON-os/400 based in almost every media and modality known to man. IBM continues to think that the Ogylvie & Mather memo regarding OS/400 is the way they should continue the way they do business...and well, IBM is currently selling at 80.26 a share....need I say more? Add to this: Have any of you hear of any MAJOR layoff's at Microsoft lately? If so, I missed them. IBM has lost the PC, the PC/OS, the desktop and if they don't get their act together really soon, the formidable competition for the server and database will take those markets from them as well...or at least continue to erode them to a point that one would have to question the profitability of maintaining them as a product. The BEST analogy I have is why Brittain lost the revolution. Clearly they had superior firepower, but they refused to adapt to the way that the indians and colonists were fighting....Brittain insisted that their troops fight out in the open fields they way that a gentleman's battle was conducted in europe. (and yes, there were other variables involved as well...) Brittain didn't realize that people fighting for their homelands, don't want to make themselves targets or want to needlessly die....they didn't adapt....they thought they were the kid in the sandbox....they lost the war. Well, there's other kids on the IT block...and they're making their presence known in spades...and companies, users, students, schools, etc., are listening..... Perhaps that's the epiphany that the advert was looking for...... Clearly, if you have the best stuff on the market, but nobody knows about it,doesn't learn about it in school as part of their normative cirriculum, doesn't hear about it in the trade rags with enough frequency and magnetude to keep thier interest, then, it's not going to gain any marketshare.... ...and the beat goes on... ------ On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Al Barsa wrote: > > It certainly doesn't track to lower sales numbers, because sales are > relatively OK. > > Sales are down for the entire industry, and the 400 is suffering it's piece > of the pie. > > Clearly, it does track to lower AS/400 marketing, which means that there > are no newcomers to the platform. > > The installed base of users just gets one year older each and every year, > so many feel that they do not need to keep their skills current. > > Al > > Al Barsa, Jr. > Barsa Consulting Group, LLC > > 400>390 > > 914-251-1234 > 914-251-9406 fax > > http://www.barsaconsulting.com > http://www.taatool.com > > > > > > |---------+-----------------------------> > | | Portal39@aol.com | > | | Sent by: | > | | midrange-l-admin@m| > | | idrange.com | > | | | > | | | > | | 06/03/2002 09:21 | > | | AM | > | | Please respond to | > | | midrange-l | > | | | > |---------+-----------------------------> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| > | | > | To: dr2@cssas400.com | > | cc: midrange-l@midrange.com | > | Subject: Re: Boise Idaho User Group? | > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| > > > > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Don please qualify that as a percentage > > does this track to the lower IBM iSeries sales, COMMON attendance, what? > > A. 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