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These arguments are interesting. What are your plans for the day the M$ itself chooses to break their "standard"? If I've understood the .net initiative correctly the idea is to create a bit-meter to your own data. You will need to keep the data on M$ servers strategically located at hardened and secure sites around the world. The bit-meter" will keep track of the data transfers and your corporate wallet will be automatically credited so you won't even need to write a check to M$ Your customer name and address list? No problem. Want it in Word or Excel? Word is .4 cents, Excel is .7 cents per row. Need four copies? Not a problem. Copies 2 through 9 are discounted by 15%. --------------------------------------------------------- Booth Martin http://www.MartinVT.com Booth@MartinVT.com --------------------------------------------------------- -------Original Message------- From: midrange-l@midrange.com Date: Saturday, May 11, 2002 11:31:07 To: midrange-l@midrange.com Subject: RE: info center search. III. This is a multipart message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Lou, Your missing the point entirely here. While this discussion is focused on technology, the issue of supporting browsers has nothing whatsoever to do with technology, but rather economics and the customer base. I have one site that makes extensive use of dynamically generated DHTML and Javascript. Click a radio button and a new series of questions appear. The questions a deverived based on data from database files and the whole thing is dynamic. I have one set of code that handles MS/IE 4.x and up including 6.x. Since there enough of my customers using Netscape 4.7, we have had write this complex code not once but twice with completely separate code after we detect the browser for Netscape 4.7. Less than 1/2 of 1% of my customers use Netscape 6. In fact over the last 3 months our statistics show that we have had NO (ZERO) visitors using NS 6. My Netscape 4.7 code will not work with NS 6. because the morons at the new Open Source Mozilla project chose not to provide backwards support for older Netscape browsers. Its bad enough that I must support NS 4.7 which has cost me hours of development time. I see "Software Engineer" in your signature. I presume someone pays you for your work? My developers get paid also. Why would I invest time and money in a browser that an insignificant number of people use. I should support Opera also right? I have yet to see Opera show up in my stats. The techies that use Opera don't seem to visit commercial sites or have more than one browser installed and know the limitations. In fact Lou, your perspective is really the problem. If we as web developers band together and say firmly: WE DO NOT SUPPORT NS6 -- It will (as it is doing) go away! I'm no fan of microsoft, but the browser wars are over, MS won! Its that simple. There are still a million or so Netscape 4.7 users out there so we need to support THEM in public websites. My Intranet and internal sites are MS only! In fact heaven help the corporate user that I find using NS browsers! Bob Cancilla Republic Indemnity Company of America (818)382-1023 _______________________________________________
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