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Joe, IBM does distribute all of the products I mentioned, Perl as part of a PRPQ, and Xerces as part of WebSphere. IBM has a little more control over Xerces because they have committers on the project. Xalan is another one that IBM distributes on the iSeries. IBM cannot tell the Apache Software foundation what to do, they may have some votes on the various projects. For Tomcat, Sun has the majority of committers. I really don't think it matters though. If you find a bug in Tomcat, or any of the Apache Software Foundation's products, you will be plugged in directly to the developers if you report the bug through bugzilla. From experience, I can tell you that you will probably hear from the person who wrote the code within hours. With a product like WebSphere I doubt you will be so lucky. That is not to say that you won't eventually get to someone who can help and submit a request that may get a PTF if IBM can find three guinea pigs to test it. That will take about a month in my experience. With Apache projects through the developers lists and bugzilla, two day is average for bugs I have reported or submitted a patch for. David Morris >>> joepluta@PlutaBrothers.com 03/20/02 05:19PM >>> > From: David Morris > > IBM does not need to support Tomcat. How can IBM support > a product that they have no control over? Tomcat is offered as an IBM solution for web serving, bundled as Bob C. pointed out with the 57xxDG1 product. The only other open source product IBM distributes this way (other than their own Java toolbox) is the powered by Apache HTTP server. Perl or Xerces are not part of a system product. So how is a bundled version of Tomcat any different from a bundled version of Apache? Or are you saying that IBM doesn't support the powerd by Apache server? This is a very weird gray area, but one for which I have several very specific questions: Is the Apache HTTP server a licensed IBM product, or part of one? Is the Apache server supported by IBM? Is the Tomcat web application server a licensed IBM product, or part of one? Is Tomcat supported by IBM? If the answers are different for Tomcat than Apache, why? I'm going to fire off a similar question to John Quarantello over at IBM and see if he can shed some light on this issue... Joe
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