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Tony Yes iPTF's are accessible by anyone, but so PTF's via ECS, we never have had a hardware maintenance from IBM but have used ECS for PTF's for the past 14 years and have downloaded both MF & SF PTF's. Regards Andy Youens FormaServe Systems T: 01908 319566 F: 01908 316000 M: 07770 380276 E: mailto:Andy@FormaServe.Co.Uk W: www.FormaServe.Co.Uk This message contains confidential information and is intended solely for the named addressee. If you are not the named addressee you should not distribute, copy or take any action in relevance to the contents of this email. FormaServe Systems does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message or attached documents or for any damage suffered by your computer system caused by any errors or viruses contained in the email or any attached documents. |-----Original Message----- |From: William A.(Tony) Corbett [mailto:corbett@asresources.com] |Sent: 02 March 2002 22:11 |To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange. com |Cc: "Booth Martin" |Subject: Re: Suddenly I'm a hardware guy? shhheeessshhhhh | |Booth, |Here's my experience, just my experience: | |1. iPTF will work for anyone, you just have to sign up (online) for it, |giving your customer number, serial number, and such. It was really flaky |for a while, but seems to be pretty good now. But, you can't order MF##### |ptf's this way...MF ptf's can only be ordered on media or with hardware |maintenance.(see next item). | |2. To get PTF's by ECS, you must have a hardware maintenance contract with |IBM. I know because a couple of times, when mine ran out, my ECS |priviledges went away, but never exactly on time. You are on the hardware |maintenance either by purchasing hardware maintenance, or on the 1-year |warranty which comes with a new box, or a mainboard-level (my term) |upgrade, |such as a processor upgrade, which throws you back into the 1-year warranty |situation. If ECS is working for someone without this, either you have |some |form of IBM maintenance and don't know it, or IBM's records are screwed up |and I'd be quiet and enjoy it, while it lasts. Mine ran out, ECS died |shortly thereafter...I purchased a processor upgrade, ECS came back. | |3. To order PTF's on media, you don't have to have a support contract in |place. Call Supportline and tell the person that answers that you want to |order PTF's. THey will transfer you to the right place. The PTF person |can |even point you in the right direction (give you a phone#) to place upgrade |orders. I placed an order for 513 ptf's the other day and found out that |they even have an email address for large orders like this. (I wasn't |about |to read off 513 ptf numbers) I imagine that 90% of these were superseded, |but my list had 513 in it. | |4. To get an OS (or licpgm) upgrade, you have to speak to whoever sold you |the system, ie., your IBM rep or your BP. If you don't have a BP, find out |who your rep is. Somewhere out there you have one which covers your |geographical area, at least. Just ask someone at IBM, and they'll find |out. |I'd start with the PTF folks, then go to IBM direct. I have to find out |who's my rep every time I call, IBM plays musical chairs and it's usually |someone new. | |5. If you "have" to have a supportline contract, so what, set one up. Just |sign up for a hourly contract and if you never need it, don't use it. This |is usually the first thing I do when I walk into a new situation...set up |an |hourly supportline contract. | |You may have a hard time getting back-level ptf's, especially |"way-back-level" ptf's. I've known CE's to sometimes have a "stash" of |these old ptf files. | |None of this is magic, most of the IBM folks are helpful and will try to |help. | |And if you stick around this for long enough, yes, you are a hardware guy |whether you know it or not. | |Your machines will probably be in a P05 group, if so, software subscription |and supportline will be fairly cheap...and worth every dime of it. |I've got SS and 24x7 supportline but get my hardware support via a local |company. | |AS/Resources, Inc. |William A.(Tony) Corbett |IBM Certified Specialist - AS/400 Developer |http://www.asresources.com |corbett@asresources.com |770-587-4812 (no answer forwards to mobile) |fax: 404-663-4737 | | |_______________________________________________ |This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list |To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com |To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, |visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l |or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com |Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives |at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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