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Booth, Here's my experience, just my experience: 1. iPTF will work for anyone, you just have to sign up (online) for it, giving your customer number, serial number, and such. It was really flaky for a while, but seems to be pretty good now. But, you can't order MF##### ptf's this way...MF ptf's can only be ordered on media or with hardware maintenance.(see next item). 2. To get PTF's by ECS, you must have a hardware maintenance contract with IBM. I know because a couple of times, when mine ran out, my ECS priviledges went away, but never exactly on time. You are on the hardware maintenance either by purchasing hardware maintenance, or on the 1-year warranty which comes with a new box, or a mainboard-level (my term) upgrade, such as a processor upgrade, which throws you back into the 1-year warranty situation. If ECS is working for someone without this, either you have some form of IBM maintenance and don't know it, or IBM's records are screwed up and I'd be quiet and enjoy it, while it lasts. Mine ran out, ECS died shortly thereafter...I purchased a processor upgrade, ECS came back. 3. To order PTF's on media, you don't have to have a support contract in place. Call Supportline and tell the person that answers that you want to order PTF's. THey will transfer you to the right place. The PTF person can even point you in the right direction (give you a phone#) to place upgrade orders. I placed an order for 513 ptf's the other day and found out that they even have an email address for large orders like this. (I wasn't about to read off 513 ptf numbers) I imagine that 90% of these were superseded, but my list had 513 in it. 4. To get an OS (or licpgm) upgrade, you have to speak to whoever sold you the system, ie., your IBM rep or your BP. If you don't have a BP, find out who your rep is. Somewhere out there you have one which covers your geographical area, at least. Just ask someone at IBM, and they'll find out. I'd start with the PTF folks, then go to IBM direct. I have to find out who's my rep every time I call, IBM plays musical chairs and it's usually someone new. 5. If you "have" to have a supportline contract, so what, set one up. Just sign up for a hourly contract and if you never need it, don't use it. This is usually the first thing I do when I walk into a new situation...set up an hourly supportline contract. You may have a hard time getting back-level ptf's, especially "way-back-level" ptf's. I've known CE's to sometimes have a "stash" of these old ptf files. None of this is magic, most of the IBM folks are helpful and will try to help. And if you stick around this for long enough, yes, you are a hardware guy whether you know it or not. Your machines will probably be in a P05 group, if so, software subscription and supportline will be fairly cheap...and worth every dime of it. I've got SS and 24x7 supportline but get my hardware support via a local company. AS/Resources, Inc. William A.(Tony) Corbett IBM Certified Specialist - AS/400 Developer http://www.asresources.com corbett@asresources.com 770-587-4812 (no answer forwards to mobile) fax: 404-663-4737
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