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Hi Neil, When software is ordered from IBM is the AS400 system serial number required ? ( how else would the processor group be determined to know what the price is ) Is the system serial number enough PoE, esp if IBM has records of the software paid for on the system ( at least the initial order ) Thanks, Steve Richter -----Original Message----- From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com [mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Neil Palmer Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 4:45 PM To: midrange-l@midrange.com Subject: RE: 111 cpw on ebay for $2000 As long as you kept the PoE (Proof Of Entitlement) forms that IBM shipped with the software. Those are like the ownership for your car. If you don't have them you can't sell the software licenses, and if you "buy" software by itself, or with a system, make sure you see those PoE forms before you pay up. ...Neil Thanks Andy and Pat. Sounds like an old V4 P20 or P30 has a lot more value in its transferable software licenses than in the hardware. -Steve -----Original Message----- Subject: RE: 111 cpw on ebay for $2000 Reply inline: > Is the buyer of the used system allowed to use the LPPs and OS that are on > it ? Yes, recent licenses for most standard program products are transferable separately. This is a fairly recent development in IBM licensing in the midrange. They would not automatically follow the box. With V4Rx the OS is considered part of the hardware and would follow it regardless. > If the buyer is allowed to do this, can they also remove the IBM licensed > code from one of their systems and install it on another system they own ? Yes, IBM will transfer licenses from one machine to another. Upgrade fees would apply if moving up a processor tier. > Monthly maintenance is zero if you decide to go back to ebay whenever a > part > fails. Then you're not really talking about a production system. Your original statement was "I think a business user gets a better deal from the 510." I don't know many business users who would be happy heading to eBay when their server died. Perhaps a cache of stockpiled used parts would be better. If you wanted a basement system to tinker with and were okay with the OS upgrade limitations and power consumption, this could be a good way to go. It would cut down on your heating bills in winter too. Regards, Andy _______________________________________________ This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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