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On the contrary, it will give you incentive to get it installed quickly while your order still has the current fixes on. ;-) ...Neil One problem is that many people order the release way long before they ever load it. By that time they should have ordered the latest cum and groups. Putting it all on one package encourages laziness. Rob Berendt As far as unattended release updates go, we've taken a step back from where we were at around 1994. You used to get tailored release upgrade tapes, so with 8mm your entire upgrade was on one tape. Leave it in the drive at work, when you wanted to start the upgrade connect from home and PWRDWNSYS *IMMED RESTART(*YES) IPLSRC(D) Yes, admittedly the CD's have elimibated teh tape media problems (although I did have one customer receive a cracked CD sealed in an unopened and undamaged jewel case), but honestly, the V5R1 upgrade I did last weekend required almost 20 CD'S !!! That's ridiculous. With the optional DVD drive, tIBM needs to go back to creating a custom install DVD for a customer with everything stacked on the one DVD - and the lates cum package, Hipers, Database group PTF's and Client Access PTF's (as of the date they produce teh order) should all be stacked on the same DVD. They should also stack the order on a single tape (maybe with a reasonable media charge) for those who want to take the chance on a media error on tape. Latest QIC and LTO tapes are much more reliable than the old 1/2" reel, old QIC, 8mm etc they used to distribute software on. ...Neil
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