RE: Model 400 upgrade cost -- MIDRANGE-L

To:  Glenn, Charly, Andy, Rob, Douglas, Jim and Larry
     (and anyone else who responded that I may have forgot).

First, a big THANKS for all your advice/input (sorry I haven't
mentioned this sooner).  Its took a couple of weeks to find
out specific information about the box, web searching and
talking to some BP's/resellers.

The owners asked me to make an offer (and I have) but it may
go to another person who's also interested (whom I know).

Anyway, for someone who's not involved with the sales/technical
side I sure have learned *alot*.  Next time the opportunity
arises, I'll certainly be more prepared based on your inputs.

Thanks again.

Terry


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Nolen-Parkhouse [mailto:aparkhouse@mediaone.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 11:32 AM
> To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> Subject: RE: Model 400 upgrade cost
>
>
> Terry,
>
> Some thoughts:
>
> The purchase of an AS/400 changed with V4R1.  Previously, the
> operating
> system and program products were licensed separately.  With V4R1 this
> changed and the OS (but not the LPP's) were bundled with the hardware.
> If this machine was officially upgraded on IBM's books to
> V4R3, then you
> would be entitled to use the OS by purchasing the hardware.  Under
> normal circumstances, the licensed program products would
> _not_ follow.
> If V3R7 is officially installed on that machine (regardless
> of what CD's
> are in the box), then the OS would not come with the machine.
>
> Getting compilers by PTF?  I don't think so.  Do you have specifics on
> that?
>
> Regardless of the current OS, you would obtain upgrades by
> purchasing a
> software subscription.  Software subscription is priced by processor
> tier.  Within the Model 400 line, processor #2130 is P05,
> #2131, #2132,
> and #2133 are P10.  Prices used to be $600/year for P05 and
> $2,000/year
> for the P10.  I don't know what they are now.
>
> If you want to do this, prepare for battle; IBM has great
> difficulty in
> processing transactions like this.  Find out what IBM thinks is
> installed on that serial number.
>
> Regards,
> Andy
>
> > This may be a little OT but..
> >
> > I might be able to get a used Model 400.  It is currently
> running V3R7
> and
> > it has
> > a copy of V4R3 in the box uninstalled.  IF I could get this *cheap*,
> does
> > anyone
> > know what it would cost to upgrade to V4R5 (I've heard that you can
> get
> > all
> > of the
> > compilers by PTF).
> >
> > I'm just a programmer who wants to have one for home :)
> >
> > Any ideas or thoughts on this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Terry
>
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