RE: VPN server

Is there a technical reason for the success of vpn depending on if the ISP
supports it ?

Isnt VPN traffic just encapsulated IP data that is routed thru the internet
just like any other IP data packet and will be materialized at the receiving
end ?


thanks,

Steve Richter

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com
[mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Jim Franz
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 8:11 PM
To: midrange-l@midrange.com
Subject: Re: VPN server


I would verify with the dsl provider that they "fully support" what you are
doing with the
equipment you are doing it with.
Our network guy asked BellSouth if we could install the cheaper dsl
connection at a remote site in Miami, FL.
They said yes.
He asked - can we run VPN
They said yes.
He flew to Miami to install - didn't work!
Asked BellSouth why.
Answer - we support vpn on "our supplied routers", not your Cisco
routers-you didn't ask us that!
(and our routers don't support your Cisco vpn!)
Morale of this story - Verify the entire setup - routers, firewall, ports
for traffic, etc.
jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Bipes" <chris.bipes@cross-check.com>
To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 6:50 PM
Subject: RE: VPN server


> Well DSL is FAST in ONE direction.  Though the upload speed is 128K or
that
> of the ISDN line.  VPN does add lots of overhead to your network traffic.
I
> find DSL to be very reliable.  Brand new installation was only down twice
in
> the first year and has been rock solid for the last 6 months.  I would say
> our T1 dies about once a year, well we just changed ISPs so we will see.
If
> the branch offices currently have internet access or need access, VPN
would
> be the way to go.  Private FR is more secure with PtoP leased lines the
most
> secure you can get and be connected 24x7.  I would put DSL at one location
> and see how it works with VPN and add locations one at a time.
>
>
> Good Luck
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Richter [mailto:srichter@autocoder.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 1:19 PM
> To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> Subject: RE: VPN server
>
>
> Our current topology is frame relay, cisco routers, T1 from central office
> to the frame cloud, branch offices use expensive and slow 64kb/128kb
> connections to the cloud.
>
> Any thoughts on replacing the cloud with router to router vpn over the
> internet ?
>
> Esp where less expensive, higher speed DSL is used to connect the remote
> branches to the internet.
>
> Is DSL too unreliable for business use ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve Richter
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