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My view is that once DSL is established it works fine.

Jerry

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Richter <srichter@autocoder.com>
To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 1:18 PM
Subject: RE: VPN server


> Our current topology is frame relay, cisco routers, T1 from central office
> to the frame cloud, branch offices use expensive and slow 64kb/128kb
> connections to the cloud.
>
> Any thoughts on replacing the cloud with router to router vpn over the
> internet ?
>
> Esp where less expensive, higher speed DSL is used to connect the remote
> branches to the internet.
>
> Is DSL too unreliable for business use ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve Richter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com
> [mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Carl Galgano
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 9:56 PM
> To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> Subject: RE: VPN server
>
>
> The Linksys Router is an interesting animal, because it allows router to
> router level VPN.  So anything behind the router on one side can access
> anything behind the router on the other side without any client
> software.  The default route points to the router and the router does
> the rest.  Very slick.  We are considering deploying this as a back up
> solution to one of our clients who currently uses ISDN to back up their
> Frame Relay network.
> cjg
>
> Carl J. Galgano
> EDI Consulting Services, Inc.
> 550 Kennesaw Avenue, Suite 800
> Marietta, GA  30060
> (770) 422-2995 - voice
> (419) 730-8212 - fax
> mailto:cgalgano@ediconsulting.com
> http://www.ediconsulting.com
> AS400 EDI, Networking, E-Commerce and Communications Consulting and
> Implementation
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> http://www.ediconsulting.com/timeshare.html
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com
> [mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com] On Behalf Of Fritz Hayes
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 7:51 PM
> To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> Subject: RE: VPN server
>
>
> VPN is either a client to network or network to network, encrypted
> TCP/IP connection.  It requires some client software that connects to an
> authenticating server.
>
> A solid VPN server is the iSeries.
>
> The documentation in the Information Center does a pretty good job in
> describing the setup, if you can find it.  Try
>
> http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/pubs/html/as400/v5r1/ic2924/info/rzaja/rza
> javpnprotocols.htm
>
> Or you could look at something like the Linksys VPN/Router for about
> $180.
>
> Either way, the VPN authentication server needs to be accessable from
> the Internet.
>
> The O'Reilly is an resource!
>
> Best Regards
>
> Fritz Hayes
> Atwater Associates
>
> <snip>
> Where's a good source for information on VPN servers vs clients? The
> concept is easy to understand; the implementation appears to be
> spreading out from software-only to VPN appliances, and it's not clear
> to me what's required on either end.  I'm looking for the simplest,
> least expensive solution, naturally.  I want to provide a customer
> access to my AS/400 via the internet using VPN.
>
> 1. Is there a standard VPN protocol?  I.e. there appears to be IPsec, M$
>
> PPTP, and probably others.  Am I correct in assuming these are
> incompatible?
>
> 2. Are these VPN appliances servers, or clients?
>
> 3. What's a ballpark cost to provide VPN for 3-5 users?
>
>
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