This is a design limitation as it stands in V5R1. Al Al Barsa, Jr. Barsa Consulting Group, LLC 400>390 914-251-1234 914-251-9406 fax http://www.barsaconsulting.com http://www.taatool.com NigsRpgId@aol.com Sent by: To: firstname.lastname@example.org midrange-l-admin@mi cc: drange.com Subject: Re: Save While Active problem 01/16/02 03:03 PM Please respond to midrange-l -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi Al, What I was trying to say was that if three files are journalled to the same journal, then if one save operation, with save-while-active, tries to save just two of the files, the save will not complete if there are pending record changes for the third file. Even though the third file is not being saved! I just did the following experiment: 1. Create three files - FILEA, FILEB and FILEC 2. Journal all to JRNL001 3. savobj obj(FILEA FILEB) savact(*SYNCLIB) If an RPG program is updating only FILEC, as long as there are pending changes for FILEC, the savobj command will fail. The message issued will be CPF377F "Save-while-active request prevented by pending record changes. " If a large number of files are journalled to the same journal, and you are trying to save a subset of them, SWA will wait for no-pending changes on ALL files within the journal. This caught us out last year ! I hope this expalins what I was trying to say more clearly :) Rgds Nigel In a message dated 1/16/02 5:17:17 PM GMT Standard Time, email@example.com writes: With all due respect, the pending commit does have to do with the file that is being journaled. This is a SWA limitation, and it involves a specific application design, and providing sufficient time in the SAVACTWAIT parameter to let the commit cycle to complete. Al Al Barsa, Jr. Barsa Consulting Group, LLC NigsRpgId@aol.com Sent by: To: firstname.lastname@example.org midrange-l-admin@mi cc: drange.com Subject: Re: Save While Active problem 01/16/02 10:53 AM Please respond to midrange-l I don't know if this helps but we discovered that the file with pending changes need not be one of the files being saved. It seems that the OS/400 save object commands, when using save-while-active, can be held up by any file that is locked by a commitment control cycle, when that file is using the same journal as the objects being saved. The pending commitment control cycle does not have to directly involve one of the objects being saved. Rgds Nigel <snip....> > Hello all, > > We are having a problem with our nightly backup. We are receiving a CPF377F > (Save-while-active request prevented by pending record changes) on our > SAVLIB command. I'm assuming that there is commitment control over a file > with pending changes but I cannot determine which file is causing the > problem, if indeed that is the problem. Our backup log shows QUSRNOTES > library as the last library saved. So I'm assuming, again, that the > offending object is in QUSRSYS. Is there a way to shed more light on this? > The joblog doesn't tell me squat nor does a CL Dump. > > > Thanks, > > Mark > <endsnip> _______________________________________________ This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-Lemail@example.com Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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