Rob: I seldom read cover letters at all any more except when doing basic research through the web. For HiPers, I was mostly saying they haven't seemed to make any difference to me for a few years. The systems themselves have seemed to locate the vast majority of needed PTFs and downloaded them accordingly. For the past couple years here, it's actually been somewhat advantageous to keep our PTFs to a minimum on most of our systems, mostly keeping cume levels up enough to keep IBM support happy. This lets us experience actual errors and learn more precisely what fixes each one which tends to help us support our customers. That's probably not representative practice on this list of course. Prior to that, such facilities as Service Director seemed to do an excellent job. The result has been that I simply haven't had a need for HiPers for many years. I'm not sure I've installed HiPers on any system since the model 300 came out, though cumes and group PTFs have been very useful. The point was more that I couldn't add anything useful to the discussion when HiPers were included. Tom Liotta On Thu, 03 January 2002, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote: > I no longer read the cover letter SF98vrm to order the hipers separately. > Too much work. Now I just order the hiper group ptf. To see which group > ptf to order for you version of OS to get all hipers check out: > http://www-912.ibm.com/s_dir/sline003.NSF/GroupPTFs?OpenView&view=GroupPTFs -- Tom Liotta The PowerTech Group, Inc. 19426 68th Avenue South Kent, WA 98032 Phone 253-872-7788 Fax 253-872-7904 http://www.400Security.com ___________________________________________________ The ALL NEW CS2000 from CompuServe Better! Faster! More Powerful! 250 FREE hours! Sign-on Now! http://www.compuserve.com/trycsrv/cs2000/webmail/
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