Rob:

I seldom read cover letters at all any more except when doing basic research 
through the web. For HiPers, I was mostly saying they haven't seemed to make 
any difference to me for a few years. The systems themselves have seemed to 
locate the vast majority of needed PTFs and downloaded them accordingly.

For the past couple years here, it's actually been somewhat advantageous to 
keep our PTFs to a minimum on most of our systems, mostly keeping cume levels 
up enough to keep IBM support happy. This lets us experience actual errors and 
learn more precisely what fixes each one which tends to help us support our 
customers. That's probably not representative practice on this list of course.

Prior to that, such facilities as Service Director seemed to do an excellent 
job. The result has been that I simply haven't had a need for HiPers for many 
years. I'm not sure I've installed HiPers on any system since the model 300 
came out, though cumes and group PTFs have been very useful.

The point was more that I couldn't add anything useful to the discussion when 
HiPers were included.

Tom Liotta

On Thu, 03 January 2002, rob@dekko.com wrote:

> I no longer read the cover letter SF98vrm to order the hipers separately.
> Too much work.  Now I just order the hiper group ptf.  To see which group
> ptf to order for you version of OS to get all hipers check out:
> http://www-912.ibm.com/s_dir/sline003.NSF/GroupPTFs?OpenView&view=GroupPTFs

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Kent, WA 98032
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