Jim,

A couple points:

Do you know if Jim Baker is considered "an Executive of IBM"?

Here's what Andrew sent me, which is also through the iNation:  (catchy name
for the promo, huh...!)

=========================
i'm Exclusive

I. Highlights
A. Personal use system
1. tailored for a single user and priced to match
B. Capable of handling all workload types
1. including a single 5250 workstation user
C. Wide selection of software pre-installed
1. intended to encourage exploration
D. Pre-configured and pre-loaded
1. ready to run
II. i'M Exclusive - Personal Use System
A. IBM ^ iSeries Model 270
1. Processor - 1070 CPW (FC2432/1516)
2. 256 Mb memory
3. 17 GB disk (2 arms)
4. Ethernet
5. DVD-RAM
6. other options available as standard features and upgrades
B. IBM Software including (but not limited to)
1. WebSphere products
i. WebSphere Application Server
ii. WebSphere Commerce Suite
iii. WebSphere Development Studio
iv. WebSphere Transcoding Publisher
2. Lotus products
i. Domino
ii. iNotes
3. Connect for iSeries, MQ Series . . . and others
C. Non-IBM Software
1. SUSE LinuxJ

=========================

The key, to me, is this phrase:

| It is not
| to be used as a production system on which to run your business or your
| customer's business.

This is the reason I bought my 170, almost 3 years ago, instead of getting
one through PID...  I couldn't guarantee I'd ONLY  use this to

| be used to develop new solutions,  proof of concepts,
| new services
| methodologies, customize applications, conduct demonstrations and other
| such activities that will develop your iSeries services business.

In fact, I used it to do an emergency set of interfaces between a *nix
Merchandising package and a 400 warehouse system...  Does this qualify, or
not...?!?

This terminology is too vague, and why I've been looking into buying another
400, right now.

I'd MUCH rather go with EITHER iNation offering.  I'm thinking the one
Andrew supplied is the better deal, and if they added Sametime, that would
clinch it, for me...  But again, what's the "fine print" on this offer...?
I may NEVER develop a marketable Sametime app...  (And probably wouldn't...)
But what I would probably do is develop code for my clients to use...  Is
that considered "running my business" on the machine, since I'm in the
contract code biz (or at least do it in my "spare time"...;-)...?

If you get any clarification on this, I'd appreciate it...


jt


| -----Original Message-----
| From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com
| [mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Jim Franz
| Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:24 PM
| To: midrange-l@midrange.com
| Subject: Re: iNation un-announced promotions
|
|
| > I've visited this link a few times ....
| JT - I beleive the way it works (good or bad) is that you have to sign up
| for the
| iSeries Services Network to get the details. I signed up last night & got
| the details
| emailed to me today. Would be nice if the iNation page was a little
| clearer...
| Has anyone on this list completed app & received a machine? I've
| been aware
| of
| IBM's 1% deal thru PartnerWorld for many years & have participated. This
| looks
| to be a slight variation.  Here is a clip from the email today, describing
| program:
|
| The IBM iSeries Integrator Lease Program enables iSeries systems
| integrators, consultants, web integrators, and services providers to
| acquire the latest iSeries technology at affordable rates in order to
| develop the skills and familiarity of their staff with this technology. It
| can also be used to develop new solutions,  proof of concepts,
| new services
| methodologies, customize applications, conduct demonstrations and other
| such activities that will develop your iSeries services business.
| It is not
| to be used as a production system on which to run your business or your
| customer's business. </clip>
|
| There are 3 hardware options, and the 1070 cpw Andrew described is
| option 2 or 3. Option 1 is 150 cpw w/25 interactive (not enough for
| Websphere Commerce).
|
| the reason for the 3 references is <quote>Have an active iSeries services
| practice as evidenced by 3 current customer references.</quote>
|
| <opinion>nothing is free - ibm expects you to use these tools to
| bring them
| (and yourself) more business. Part of the application asks you to describe
| how you will do that. It's no big deal.
|
| Looking at the app, the details seem a bit more expensive than the <quote
| from iNation page>
| Under this pilot...for as little as$160.00 per mth, or purchased less than
| $8,000.00. </quote>
| I need to get details from them.
| I'll repeat the signature from my details: (Jim Baker) and does say "email
| preferred".
| Program Manager, iSeries Services Network
|     Dept  PFVA, Bldg 025-2
|     Rochester MN 55901
|     Office (507) 253-4758     TL  553-4758     FAX  553-4884
|     jrbaker@us.ibm.com
|
| jim franz
|
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "jt" <jt@ee.net>
| To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
| Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 3:52 PM
| Subject: iNation un-announced promotions (was RE: 18 CPW? (was RE: V5R1M0
| and you...) )
|
|
| > Jim,
| > I've visited this link a few times.  I see where it says "Later
| during the
| > month of August, qualification details, system request forms and
| > configuration options will be sent via e-mail to all members of the
| services
| > network."  (I'm pretty sure that last time I visited this link, it said
| > something like "When the details are finalized, towards the end
| of August,
| > details..."?!?)
| > My personal sticking point is the need for three references, as I have
| only
| > 2 current accounts.  So I never signed up.
| > Anyhoo... this thing Andrew is talking about is quite
| different.  There is
| > some question about which is the better deal, 1% of lease, or a
| $7000 1070
| > CPW machine.
| > jt
|
|
|
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