Thanks Steve.  I was attempting to backup up the whole system on a bimonthly
basis.  We don't do a lot of development on that machine, but this may
increase
in the future.  What is there needs to be backed up in case of the usual
disaster
recovery situation.

And I appreciate the reassurance...just very confused.  Used to working on
systems
where I can get my hands on the details.  Not much to work with here, or I
just
don't know enough to find it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Richter [mailto:srichter@AutoCoder.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 12:26 PM
To: midrange-l@midrange.com
Subject: Re: Probably very easy, Newbie question


Dont dispair yet Newbie.

Option 21 will save the user and system libraries. Do you need to do that,
or just the user libraries ?

If just the user libraries, you just need to make sure no user jobs are
running when you do the backup.

- get everyone to signoff.
- end all batch jobs ( or wait for them to end )
- from the command line, run the cmd:

 SAVLIB LIB(*ALLUSR)
        DEV(TAP01)
        SEQNBR(1)
        ENDOPT(*UNLOAD)
        CLEAR(*ALL)

If some objects were in use and could not be saved,  you will get completion
messages telling you so.

Hope this helps,

Steve Richter

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jill Grine" <JillG@gtsoftware.com>
To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 12:05 PM
Subject: RE: Probably very easy, Newbie question


> I really hate to say this, but I really meant it when I said that the only
> keyboard in the vicinity of the AS400 is attached to a PC, then goes to
the
> 400.  Maybe something strange about the way it was set up.
>
> Well, it looks then like I can't use this option to back up the system.
> Guess I'll have to look for something else.  (Sigh.)  Thanks all.  You'd
> think backups should be relatively straightforward.  Thanks, Murphy.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: alan shore [mailto:SHOREA@dime.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 11:53 AM
> To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> Subject: RE: Probably very easy, Newbie question
>
>
> On the command line type
> WRKACTJOB
> and press Enter.
> This will display the Work with Active jobs screen.
> There are numerous columns.
> Under the column
> Subsystem/Job
> you should see the following
> QBATCH - for jobs run in batch
> QCMN - communications subsystem
> QCTL - the control subsystem. This is where you should see your User
Profile
> (in this case QSECOFR) under the User column
> QINTER - the Interactive subsystem. If you see your profile (in this case
> QSECOFR) under the User column after this subsystem - you are NOT at the
> console. Therefore option 21 - Full system save - should NOT work. You
need
> to sign on at the console, usually near where the AS/400.
>
> >>> Jill Grine <JillG@gtsoftware.com> 12/20/01 11:36AM >>>
> Thanks for the response, Richard.  Uh oh...What is "qinter"?  I don't find
> that in the index, and I'm hoping it's a typo.  Also, we don't have
anything
> set up as a "console".  We are accessing it via Client Access from another
> PC.  I am doing this from the QSECOFR id, which is supposed to have all
the
> access necessary based on the Backup and Recovery manual.
>
> Ahhh the learning curve.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Reeve [mailto:richreeve@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 11:23 AM
> To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> Subject: RE: Probably very easy, Newbie question
>
>
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
>
>  Two things come to mind;
> 1.  The system needs to be in a restricted state i.e. qinter should be
> ended, thereby making it necessary to perform this function from the
> console.
> 2.  The authority level of the person that is perfoming this may be
> incorrect.  It has been a while for me, but at a minimum I believe that
you
> will need *savsys specified on the special authority field for the user
that
> is perfoming this task.  You may also need *allobj authority but I can't
> swear to that one.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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