Joe, I was JUST asking a question... I hate to say.. but I think you get irritated when I agree with you, as far as the facts, but draw a different conclusion than you do. We don't see the trade-offs the same, that's all. And I'll readily admit that most companies agree with your POV. I think we disagree on a small minority of points. However, they ARE some pretty fundamental issues. A lot of people, including the majority of the most influential (as well as many in IBM) buy into the idea that Java is the language of choice. I think this is a point that we're gonna have to agree to disagree on. Granted, Java is **chosen** for a HUGE percentage of development. Once, that was a controversial view, and still is to a small extent, in the 400 community. But now that's become the CW in the industry (or one of primary views of a large percentage, anyway). But just because it's chosen frequently throughout the industry, and RPG isn't, IMHO that doesn't make it the language "of choice". I think that fundamental difference of our views is reflected in this debate here. I'm just not sold on cross-platform to the extent you are, Joe. So we view the trade-offs differently. See inline. jt | -----Original Message----- | From: email@example.com | [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]On Behalf Of Joe Pluta | Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 1:42 AM | To: email@example.com | Subject: RE: Where are all of the /400's going. | | | > From: jt | > | > Seems like I could fit the content of most websites on my 8G 170, | > diskspace-wise. | | JT, we never seem to be able to hit even fundamental common ground, either | on specifics or on the abstract concept. This is a perfect example. | | Regarding the specifics, I don't know how many AS/400 clients you | have, but | most of mine fret about disk space on their production machines. | I know of | people who change the disk warning limit to a number less than the default | of 5% because they routinely run at over 95% DASD utilization. I'm not sure what you're getting at. I don't have many clients, and never have had. And furthermore, I do as little work as I can get away with. I don't think that's really limited my experience too much, though. I was one who routinely ran over 95%. About half-way through my tenure of 8 years, I went from a 38 to a 400, and got some additional disk then. It was 16 G. Couldn't afford raid and paid for that with my time. | With images, | flash presentations and PDF files it's not hard to get 100MB on a | web site. | In your case, that's over one percent of your storage. Many of my clients | would kill to get one percent of their DASD back. Okay. I hate to get in a p* contest with you. But I believe I hold the world record for being tight on space. We filled up the disk with save files twice, IIRC, in the 18 years I worked and my Wife consulted there. I'm not talking about that. I had plenty of close calls, where the system didn't go down. I'd call in from home, to check the system once a night. We had several close calls, but this one was the closest. I could tell I was in trouble, because whenever the disk got above 98%, it would take 10 or 15 minutes to sign on. So I knew I was in trouble, this one night. I believe the Guiness Book would record this, if I'da kept the screen print. "Closest Call On Running Out Of Disk Space": 99.9965%. I'm pretty sure I recall that number correctly, because on a 16 G system, it calculates to less than 1 floppy of free disk space. About 540K of free disk, in fact. So, ya... I know what you're talking about... Scarce resources. Back to the original question, then: how much does 100M of disk cost? Sure it's astronomical on a 400, compared to a Wintel. I don't recall what I paid for the extra 4 G, three years ago. Let's just guess $4K. (Prices have dropped so much anyway, but let's start with that.) Sure $1000 per Gig is outrageously expensive. But in my limited experience, I don't know too many businesses that can claim to be making any sound business judgments if they worry about $1000. I'm not saying that well. We're talking do you support a new platform and an added layer of management? Any business that evaluates that decision in terms of an asset that costs $1000... Well, in my limited experience, I've never seen anything like that... Haven't worked in many companies, but they've ranged from < $10M to > $1B, and I've never seen anything like that. I'm sure some businesses make a decision of that magnitude along those lines, but I consider that more of a decision based on which way the wind is blowing. | | But ultimately the issue is not whether you CAN put the stuff on your | AS/400, but whether you SHOULD. Why in the world would you waste the | precious space on your production machine for something that could just as | easily be stored on a different medium? There is no good reason, | other than | management. And if you can't manage the storage on a single attached PC, | then you have far larger problems in your IS organization than this | particular issue. As it happens, I was just finishing a post on this particular issue. The post may sound like boasting, to some, but I figure the point will come across because I'm mainly boasting about my Wife. | | Joe "I see herrings, and they're all red!" Pluta | www.plutabrothers.com | j "Sorry, Joe, but I think you're just seeing red" t
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