RE: CPY instead of CRTDUPOBJ ? (was: CD Burning software?) -- MIDRANGE-L

Rob,

I rarely find anything to disagree with, in your posts...

But in this case, I'm surprised.  If you find the DATA(*YES) to be pesky,
I'd think you'd find this:

'/qsys.lib/mylib.lib/myobj.pgm' '/qsys.lib/newlib.lib'

to be peskier than this:

MYOBJ   MYLIB   *PGM    NEWLIB

Granted the keywords make the CRTDUPOBJ about as long a string, but I don't
use them on this particular command, myself, plus I rarely have any trouble
with them (after prompting).

jt


| -----Original Message-----
| From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com
| [mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com]On Behalf Of rob@dekko.com
| Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 4:10 PM
| To: midrange-l@midrange.com
| Subject: RE: CPY instead of CRTDUPOBJ ? (was: CD Burning software?)
| Importance: High
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|
| I don't see any additional safeguards in
| CRTDUPOBJ OBJ(MYOBJ) FROMLIB(MYLIB) OBJTYPE(*PGM) TOLIB(NEWLIB)
| CRTDUPOBJ OBJ(MYOBJ) FROMLIB(MYLIB) OBJTYPE(*FILE) TOLIB(NEWLIB)
| CRTDUPOBJ OBJ(MYOBJ) FROMLIB(MYLIB) OBJTYPE(*DTAARA) TOLIB(NEWLIB)
|
| That I don't see in
| CPY OBJ('/qsys.lib/mylib.lib/myobj.pgm') TODIR('/qsys.lib/newlib.lib')
| CPY OBJ('/qsys.lib/mylib.lib/myobj.file') TODIR('/qsys.lib/newlib.lib')
| CPY OBJ('/qsys.lib/mylib.lib/myobj.dtaara') TODIR('/qsys.lib/newlib.lib')
|
| Oh wait, you have that pesky DATA(*YES) you have to remember to answer in
| CRTDUPOBJ.
|
|
| Rob Berendt
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| Andy,
|
| And I think ANYBODY who disagrees with me MUST be a *nix gearhead...;-))
|
| (PLEASE note emoticon...!)
|
|
| One of the toughest choices all programmers face is when is it worth
| learning two similar techniques.  (Not to drift off into another list,
| but...) Tables and/or arrays...?  SETLL/READE (same klist) and/or
| CHAIN...??
| SQL and/or OPNQRYF...?!?
|
| So I had to ask myself, if I didn't know anything about OS/400, would I
| take
| the trouble to learn both CPY and/or CRTDUPOBJ?  From what you
| just posted,
| CPY is more versatile (handles both IFS and CPYF).
|
| However, CPY ignores the advantages of verb/subject command structure, a
| consistent approach, and causes excessive potential for errors coding the
| object name.  This last is my hangup.
|
| Even more, this documentation is intended for the customer-base, which
| largely prefers the traditional commands.  Might be a good survey question
| (hint, hint ;-), but I'm fairly sure that even amongst tool vendors, they
| prefer the traditional.  IMV, this documentation overlooks who the primary
| customer base is...  (And this list is a small subset of those hundreds of
| thousands, at that, so a survey here is likely to only be partially
| accurate.)
|
|
| If I didn't have to "chop the wood and carry the water" (ie sweeping,
| etc.),
| I'd give an example of proof-positive that I'm not unaware of how personal
| preferences factor large in coding...  But I think these things come down
| to
| shop standards, because, IMV, it is the skill-level of the shop (which
| varies over time) which ultimately determines which techniques are more
| effective.
|
|
| But I think personal preference is VERY over-used, and ignores the reality
| that there ARE better ways, and worse ways...  Sure there's gradation.. of
| course, it's rarely black-and-white.  But there are MORE
| effective and LESS
| effective techniques, although there isn't always agreement on which are
| which...
|
|
| Again, JMNSHO...
|
| jt
|
| | -----Original Message-----
| | From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com
| | [mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Andy Nolen-Parkhouse
| | Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 2:09 PM
| | To: midrange-l@midrange.com
| | Subject: RE: CPY instead of CRTDUPOBJ ? (was: CD Burning software?)
| |
| |
| | David,
| |
| | Personal preference strikes me as a good enough reason.  Perhaps also a
| | bit of showboating.  Both CPY and CRTDUPOBJ will achieve the same
| | result.
| |
| | Regards,
| | Andy Nolen-Parkhouse
| |
| | > Ok, bit of confusion here ... on the above web page they reference
| | copying
| | > a program ... but they use IFS CPYcommand to do the copy instead of
| | > regular
| | > CRTDUPOBJ.
| | >
| | > Any ideas why?
|
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