James, I've read this thread, and I'm still not seeing how Unix is easier to admin than iSeries. I wonder if this is a case of you knowing Unix better, and are more comfortable with it. In another post, you mentioned "tcsh, bash, top, ncurses, worm (whee!), etc." (that they wouldn't run on a 400). Ignoring the issue of whether these would run, or whether there are 400 equivalents... I find these things to be completely counter-intuitive. And unless things have improved a lot, the idea of memorizing command switches doesn't fly, with me anyway. I gather there are a lot of wonderful applications on *nix, and I hope to learn more about this stuff. But I'm afraid I'm probably gonna have to wait until there is some consistency to naming commands, and CL-like help to the command switches, before I do. I just don't have THAT kind of time on my hands... I obviously know more about a 400, so maybe some flavors of *nix offer something similar to the consistency of CL commands and the command prompter... If there are, I'd like to hear about 'em.. jt | -----Original Message----- | From: email@example.com | [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]On Behalf Of James Rich | Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 2:37 PM | To: email@example.com | Subject: Re: Unix | Importance: High | | | On Wed, 5 Dec 2001 firstname.lastname@example.org wrote: | | > (sound of a fuse leading to a huge bang in background...) | > I have a friend on another AS/400 site, but the 'powers that | be' want him | > to ditch the AS/400 box and go Unix (at least they didn't suggest XP!!!) | > What arguments can he give so that he keeps the little black | box we know, | > love and trust? | > A V5R1 + Linux installation isn't an option, he needs to be able to | > deliver an argument based on what he's got now in V4R5. | | First let me get into my nuclear bomb shelter... | | Maybe moving to unix wouldn't be bad? Of course the business needs to | look at the considerable costs of changing platforms and retraining, etc. | But I work on both unix and iSeries every day and I have to say I like | unix better. It can do more. And it seems to me it does more better. I | would far rather admin a unix machine than an as/400. But I'm not going | to put our as/400 software on unix just for the sake of running unix. | | Far better is to use the advantages of each platform to get what you want. | Most of our customers now have one as/400 and one unix machine. Each box | does its tasks well, and each is suited to different tasks. Together they | make for a reliable, simple, and fairly low cost system. It would be | stupid to try to convert all the OCL36, CLP, DDS, RPG36, RPGIII, RPGIV, | etc. to run on unix. It would be equally stupid to not take advantage of | sendmail, procmail, apache, ssh, IMAP, NAT, proxy arp, RIP, GNOME, KDE, | NFS, remote booting, secure email clients, mozilla, Nautilus, Star Office, | MySQL, perl, python, C, C++, java, X11, etc. Of course some of these | things can be done on either platform and one platform may work better for | you. | | Now I'm closing the hatch on my shelter... | | James Rich | email@example.com | | _______________________________________________ | This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) | mailing list | To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com | To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, | visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l | or email: MIDRANGE-Lfirstname.lastname@example.org | Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives | at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. |
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