No, I use OpsNav occasionally.  I like things fast, so I usually use
"green screen" commands.

Yes - it's not that much work to set it up with an option is it - so why
have IBM been issuuing "temporary" PTF's for every release since V2R3
instead of a user option, which looks like what we'll finally get in V5R2.

...Neil





"jt" <jt@ee.net>
Sent by: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com
2001/11/30 23:27
Please respond to midrange-l


        To:     <midrange-l@midrange.com>
        cc:
        Subject:        RE: PTF for viewing open files (WRKJOB/DSPJOB) for V5R1


Neil,

Do you use Ops Nav, exclusively...?

EITHER WAY, I think the issue isn't just whether it's available at the
console..  I think the issue is whether it's available at the stroke of a
key...

In far less time than it took to type this reply, I created WRKJOBOPNF =
WRKJOB OPTION(*OPNF).  I then added an OUTPUT keyword  and parm so I could
CHGMSGSD CPX2313 and have <SysReq> 7 display my open files.  With the PTF
on
V4R5, I can display the file I/O details, WHICH IS WHAT I NORMALLY LOOK
AT,
with <SysReq> 7...

Now I put this together in about the time it would take Ops Nav TO
LOAD...!
(Granted, it may be faster in V5R1.)

Point is, the functionality of the PTF has always been provided, and now
it's being TAKEN AWAY...  Having it in Ops Nav is a pretty lame excuse, to
me anyway, to TAKE AWAY functionality that ***someone representing the
iNation*** has asked to be continued...

REAL LAME excuse.. as if this REASONABLE request is just being made on
some
whim...


I have NO problem with folks that prefer to see display scoping data
first,
although I really believe they're a very SMALL minority.  I have a problem
with someone who presupposes that the (IMV) over-whelming majority both:
a) don't know what they're doing on a 400
b) can use Ops Nav

Once again, the statement made is that we can like it or lump it...
Instead
of putting it as a JOB option (as many have previously suggested), or at
the
very least a SYSVAL, we can like it or lump it...  Hmmmph....


You wrote "I would need to be some kind of post-nuclear holocaust mutant
to
be able to do the same for problems with a PC."

I think I've been quite charitable up to this point...  RANT(*ON)

If you find the person who made this decision...  I think you'll have
found
your man...

IMHO, s/he most likely just transferred from a) the InfoCenter crew and/or
b) M$...

RANT(*OFF)


JMNSHO.

jt






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