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Actually our 3590 runs as fast, if not faster than, *SAVF. But you do need a healthy 400. This same tape drive went to a newer 400 with a different card and the SAVSYS dropped from 44 minutes to 4. Al wrote an article entitled 'Save while (almost) active.' I forget where I last saw this. It talked about quiescing applications. Actually quite good. Anyone have a link? But this is not what we use. Are you running multiple non related applications - probably not. If you were, like our multiple divisions - each with their own set of libraries, you could try bringing one set down at a time. They each have their own downslot. And a simple net.data screen shows them where they lie. Rob Berendt ================== "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin prumschlag@phdinc.c om To: midrange-l@midrange.com Sent by: cc: midrange-l-admin@mi Fax to: drange.com Subject: Reducing downtime for backups 11/30/2001 10:00 AM Please respond to midrange-l I am investigating options for reducing the length of time that the system is unavailable to users during our nightly backup job. Not long ago we added disks and started creating *SAVF files in a separate ASP for the backups, copying the *SAVF's to tape later. This reduced downtime to about 1 hour, but this continues to grow as we add files and the existing files grow. We are doing full SAVLIB's using BRMS and have split out all of the program and non-essential libraries into a separate job. We backup 50 GB of data which compresses to about 30 GB in the *SAVF format. We are a single AS/400 shop running JD Edwards. At this point, the options I see are: Use SAVCHGOBJ. We have done some tests on this and determined it will not save us much. A large percentage of the objects are changed everyday and the system takes too long trying to figure out which objects to save. Separate "current" data from "prior year" data and store in different libraries. We have already done some of this for the largest files. This requires system changes because the users still need access to the prior year data. Use the Save While Active Option. I suspect that this is the best solution and there is little (if any) out-of-pocket cost. The downsides are a) The time and risk associated with investigating and revising our current procedures, and b) Making sure that everyone here understands the implications of the new procedure. I would be appreciative of other ideas anyone may have. I have seen testimonials on this list that the newer tape drives are extremely fast (we have a 3570). They couldn't possibly be faster that going to *SAVF files, could they? TIA Phil _______________________________________________ This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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