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Chris, I have only one question: why aren't you working for IBM's marketing division...?!? Why doesn't the iNation hire you...?!? BTW, if I understand right, Intel DOES exactly that, because I've seen discussion on the merits of "over-clocking" the CPU, in PC rags. jt > -----Original Message----- > From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com > [mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Chris Rehm > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 1:29 PM > To: midrange-l@midrange.com > Subject: Re: Fast400 Value to iSeries community is less than zero > > > On Friday 09 November 2001 02:55 am, Don wrote: > > > That's in effect what's going on now. You buy a config of say 600 CPW, > > but are constrained to only using 45 for interactive until you > "BUY" more > > interactive... > > Why not try a more honest representation of the truth? You aren't buying a > 600CPW machine and being forced to only use 45CPW. > > Just tell your clients that IBM doesn't actually make a box as > small as the > 45CPW one they want so what they do is discount a much more powerful > machine and sell it with the agreement your customer will only use it at > the level they've purchased. > > > Well, from a person that used to using ALL of the 1.7ghz of > their servers > > on the intel platforms to look at a proposal and realize that they're > > paying $110,000USD for a machine that they can only use > 45/600th of, is a > > bit of an annoyance and one helluva SOB to sell! > > See, there is the real problem. The people are stupid enough to measure > computing performance by processor speed. But then, if they bought their > 1.7GHz processors and they wanted to use all the 1.7GHz, I sure > understand. > But how much would they complain if they bought their 1.7GHz > processors and > Intel shipped 3.4GHz chips hobbled down to 1.7GHz? They bought 1.7GHz and > they got 1.7GHz, does it matter what the vendor did to provide it? > > > Nathan, would you pay $110,000 for a system you were only allowed to use > > 7.5% of!? These numbers are approximate, but close enough to what I was > > faced with this week in trying to talk a Fortune 100 client to > upgrade... > > See, the answer to your question is a qualified, "Yes." I would > happily pay > $110,000 for a machine I am only allowed to use 7.5% of if the > value of the > portion I get to use has a value greater than $110,000. Also, I'd > of course > be looking for an alternative that gave the same value for less than the > $110,000. > > > OH, BTW, the Intel servers would only could a couple > grand....FAR from teh > > $110,000 +/- so we're faced with the same kinda scenerio Borts > was down at > > JC Penney.... > > Well, look Don, if the $110,000 iSeries is only doing the work that can be > easily replaced by a few thousand dollars of Wintel, why would > you pitch it > as the solution in the first place? Is there something more to the > equation? Like maybe the applications needing to run or the support costs > or something? > > > Don in DC > > -- > Chris Rehm > javadisciple@earthlink.net > > And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart... > ...Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. There is none other > commandment greater than these. Mark 12:30-31 > _______________________________________________ > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) > mailing list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. >
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