RE: CLRLIB QRPLOBJ?? (was Re: IPL regains storage.......but)

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I was basing this on the email from Chuck Lewis where he said he saw a lot
of system objects in QRPLOBJ after he permanently applied a lot of PTF's.
That sort of surprised me too.

...Neil





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Neil,

Sorry, I didn't catch the "perm" part. But I'd be suprised to hear the
QRPLOBJ is involved anyway. Why not just delete the old PTF objects?

-Walden

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Subject: RE: CLRLIB QRPLOBJ?? (was Re: IPL regains storage.......but)

NO.  I said if any system objects are in QRPLOBJ after permanently
applying PTF's they are the objects no longer needed to do a RMVPTF
with,
as once you permanently apply a PTF you can no longer do a RMVPTF for
it.

...Neil





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Neil,

Are you saying that the objects needed for RMVPTF are stored in QRPLOBJ?
If
so I don't believe that is correct for two reasons.

First, if you look very early in the SCPF job joblog you'll see message
CPC2199 from QLICLLIB stating that "Library QRPLOBJ Cleared." This
message
is from the CLRLIB command (well, ok from the CPP). I doubt the CLRLIB
command skips the PTF objects in QRPLOBJ. Secondly, I believe all PTF
objects are renamed to QPZA* in QSYS, take a look, you probably have a
ton
of them.

-Walden

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: RE: CLRLIB QRPLOBJ?? (was Re: IPL regains storage.......but)

What you are seeing are the objects that would be used if you ran
RMVPTF.
As you are permanently applying the PTF's these objects are no longer
needed, and can be cleared.

...Neil





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I would definitely agree with this statement Tom.

With my perm applying PTF's to free up disk space and prep for an OS
upgrade, I saw MANY PTF related objects created in QRPLOBJ and I would
be
very leery of blowing these away...

I had never noticed this in QRPLOBJ before but had noticed the usual
program
or display file objects due to compiling stuff in use at the time...

JMHO,

Chuck

Tom wrote:

<As has been mentioned elsewhere on this list, a CLRLIB of QRPLOBJ can
be
trouble. Objects should not be removed from QRPLOBJ unless you know what
they are. The system does some of its own work through this library and
can
be disrupted if some of its objects disappear.

On most days at most sites, there's probably no problem. But blanket
CLRLIB
should be avoided.

Tom Liotta>