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Re: nightly backup: objects not saved error

Yeah. See, I saw this and while it's a right answer (DSPAPPNINF) it's not
for the faint-of-heart or the un-prepared. You must then drill down and
interpret...

DSPNETA on each of the machines in question. It will generally have
*NETNODE, or *ENDNODE listed.

The only reason I brought it up, is that it may be the cause of the one
machine having the files allocated even though all the machines are running
QSNADS. Those files are the distribution queues and related directory stuff.
A NETNODE machine is responsible for monitoring and routing in an APPN
network for ENDNODES.

SO ...
if the machine is functioning as a *NETNODE and the rest are functioning as
*ENDNODEs that might explain the discrepancy.

The solution, either way, is still to end QSNADS prior to the backup.
QUSRSYS contains system objects that contain user information and system
objects that contain system information. A nasty combination.

===========================================================
R. Bruce Hoffman, Jr.
 -- IBM Certified Specialist - AS/400 Administrator
 -- IBM Certified Specialist - RPG IV Developer

"America is the land that fought for freedom and then
  began passing laws to get rid of it."

     - Alfred E. Neuman

-----Original Message-----
From: Bale, Dan <D.Bale@handleman.com>
To: midrange-l@midrange.com <midrange-l@midrange.com>
Date: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 11:19 AM
Subject: RE: nightly backup: objects not saved error


>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>--
>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
>O.k., here's what it shows:
>
>                     Display Nodes
>                                   System:   S102
>Position to  . . . . . . . .  __________   Control point
>
>  Network ID . . . . . . . .    __________
>
>Type options, press Enter.
>  5=Display link destination nodes
>
>     Control   Network   Node  Routing    Route Addition  Valid Routing
>Opt  Point     ID        Type  Congestion   Resistance     Information
>     S1022A7M  APPN      *NN   Low              128         Yes
>     HDL1      USHDLE01  *EN
>
>
>Dan Bale
>IT - AS/400
>Handleman Company
>248-362-4400  Ext. 4952
>D.Bale@Handleman.com
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Carl Galgano [SMTP:cgalgano2@ediconsulting.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 11:04 AM
>> To: midrange-l@midrange.com
>> Subject: RE: nightly backup: objects not saved error
>>
>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>> --
>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
>> RE: nightly backup: objects not saved error
>>
>> Do a DSPAPPNINF
>> cjg
>>
>>
>>
>> Carl J. Galgano
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>>
>>   -----Original Message-----
>>   From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com
>> [mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Bale, Dan
>>   Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 10:50 AM
>>   To: midrange-l@midrange.com
>>   Subject: RE: nightly backup: objects not saved error
>>
>>
>>   Whooooooosh!  <right over my head!>
>>
>>   Um, how do I determine this?
>>
>>   Dan Bale
>>   IT - AS/400
>>   Handleman Company
>>   248-362-4400  Ext. 4952
>>   D.Bale@Handleman.com
>>
>>     -----Original Message-----
>>     From:   R. Bruce Hoffman, Jr. [SMTP:rbruceh@attglobal.net]
>>     Sent:   Wednesday, August 22, 2001 10:49 AM
>>     To:     midrange-l@midrange.com
>>     Subject:        Re: nightly backup: objects not saved error
>>
>>     is that one a netnode and the rest are endnodes?
>>
>>     ===========================================================
>>     R. Bruce Hoffman, Jr.
>>      -- IBM Certified Specialist - AS/400 Administrator
>>      -- IBM Certified Specialist - RPG IV Developer
>>
>>     "America is the land that fought for freedom and then
>>       began passing laws to get rid of it."
>>
>>          - Alfred E. Neuman
>>
>>     -----Original Message-----
>>     From: Bale, Dan <D.Bale@handleman.com>
>>     To: midrange-l@midrange.com <midrange-l@midrange.com>
>>     Date: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 6:55 PM
>>     Subject: RE: nightly backup: objects not saved error
>>
>>
>>
>>     >This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>>     >--
>>     >[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
>>     >>These files are used by OV/400 and SNADS. End the QSNADS
>>     >>subsystem before doing the backup.
>>     >
>>     >Curious.  We have SNADS running on all of our AS/400s.  I don't
>> believe
>>     >that we end QSNADS sbs on any of them before doing our backup.
>> Yet
>> only
>>     >one box has this problem.  Does that make any sense?  (Also, we
>> do not
>>     >use OV/400.)
>>     >
>>     >I will investigate this a little further.
>>     >
>>     >Dan Bale
>>     >IT - AS/400
>>     >Handleman Company
>>     >248-362-4400  Ext. 4952
>>     >D.Bale@Handleman.com
>>     >  Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
>>     >  (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)
>>     >
>>     >-------------------------- Original Message
>> --------------------------
>>     >
>>     >> -----Original Message-----
>>     >> From: York, Albert [SMTP:albert.york@nissan-usa.com]
>>     >> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 6:29 PM
>>     >> To: 'midrange-l@midrange.com'
>>     >> Subject: RE: nightly backup: objects not saved error
>>     >>
>>     >> Cannot allocate object for file QAOKP01A in QUSRSYS.
>>     >>    Cannot allocate object for file QAOKP09A in QUSRSYS.
>>     >>    Cannot allocate object for file QAOKP08A in QUSRSYS.
>>     >>    Cannot allocate object for file QAOKP04A in QUSRSYS.
>>     >>    Cannot allocate object for file QASNADSQ in QUSRSYS.
>>     >>    Cannot allocate object for file QAZCADIR in QUSRSYS.
>>     >>
>>     >> These files are used by OV/400 and SNADS. End the QSNADS
>> subsystem
>>     >> before
>>     >> doing the backup.
>>     >>
>>     >> Albert York
>>
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