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The answer is as follows: 1. *CHANGE authority allows the user to read/write data to the device. It does not allow management of the object. This authority will not allow the device description to be renamed. 2. The group profile and the user do not have any specific authority to the device, therefore, they cannot rename it. 3. The object owner, has *ALL authority, so can rename the device. I recommend changing the operators group profile to the owner of the device (in this case TB07). They will then be able to manage the device. If all devices on the system are owned by TB07 this will solve the problem. If the system operator also needs to be in group LTEIT, or, there are several different owners of device descriptions then use the supplemental groups option on the user profile to add operators to other groups. I would make one comment. It is good idea to change the user profile OWNER parameter to *GRPPRF. This ensures that all objects created (except those in the IFS) by the user are owned by the group profile. This makes the management of objects easier. It has the following advantages: 1. Easier to delete user profiles when an employee leaves the company when they don't own objects 2. With new employees, putting them in a group immediately gives them the necessary authority for their job. No special authorities need to be assigned. 3. If a users changes job within the same organization, all that is required is to change the group profile to change their authorities on the system. 4. Managing group authorities is easier because there are fewer group profiles to change it an authority change is required. Regards Richard J. Serrano Team400 Inc. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bale, Dan" <D.Bale@handleman.com> To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 10:45 AM Subject: security AGGRAVATION: renaming *devd This is a continuing thorn in our side. We've got system operators on the other side of the pond (the Atlantic) that we have wanted to give the necessary authority to work with device configurations as needed. The user profile has the following attributes: User class . . . . . . . . . : *SYSOPR Special authority . . . . . : *JOBCTL *SAVSYS Group profile . . . . . . . : LTEIT Owner . . . . . . . . . . . : *USRPRF Group authority . . . . . . : *NONE Group authority type . . . . : *PRIVATE The profile of group LTEIT shows: User class . . . . . . . . . : *SYSOPR Special authority . . . . . : *IOSYSCFG *JOBCTL *SAVSYS *SPLCTL Group profile . . . . . . . : *NONE Owner . . . . . . . . . . . : *USRPRF The system operator has tried to rename a device description that was created via autoconfig. He was able to vary it off, but 7=Rename was rejected: CPF2189: Not authorized to object DSP02 in QSYS type *DEVD. The object authority for the device description was created as: TB07 (the owner) . . . . : *ALL *PUBLIC . . . . . . . . : *CHANGE When I changed *PUBLIC to have *ALL authority, the system operator was then able to rename the device description. However, this also opens up the ability for any user to do this as well. Which is a no-no. I mistakenly thought that *IOSYSCFG would be necessary to do anything related to configuring devices. I tested this using a test profile created as follows: User class . . . . . . . . . : *USER Special authority . . . . . : *NONE Group profile . . . . . . . : *NONE Owner . . . . . . . . . . . : *USRPRF So, what's the magic combination needed to give our system operators the ability to work with device configuration and keep end-users from doing so? Note that we do not give anyone *ALLOBJ authority. And, is this question specifically answered in any IBM reference? Seems like we get occasional gotcha's caused by the combination of user authority and object authority. TIA. Dan Bale IT - AS/400 Handleman Company 248-362-4400 Ext. 4952 D.Bale@Handleman.com Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur. (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.) +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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