RE: The weasels at IIR.ORG -- MIDRANGE-L

So they decided they could get a better return on their investment  for 
their shareholders by selling drugs down at the local schoolyard and arms 
to terrorists ?    ;-)

I don't really want to start a new discussion on this, but it appears that 
these days the corporate world has lost any sense of community or 
responsibility (especially to employees) that existed years ago.  Now 
everything is motivated by pure greed (profits not BIG enough), outrageous 
compensation packages for mediocre narrow-minded executives, and 
"long-range" planning that doesn't extend beyond the retirement date of 
the current chariman/president.  You know - the type of short sighted 
decisions that most politicians (who usually don't care much beyond the 
next election) have been famous for for years.  It's this type of 
corporate behaviour that's giving rise to the resurgence of unions.

It's more a reflection of the way society in general has gone downhill 
over the past several decades.
Not that I in any way condone the mindless violence of the hard core 
radicals (criminals !), but I can certainly understand the concerns of 
these anti-globalisation protesters.

Anyway - that's my two cents worth.  If anyone wants to debate this, let's 
take it offline.

...Neil





Winchester Terry <terry.winchester@raymondcorp.com>
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Bill,

I thought this post by Shannon was interesting.  Apparently
their still making money.....better than the competition.
It sounds like GREED to me :-(

[Quote]

>>Shannon O'Donnell wrote:
>> This came as a complete surprise to everyone. IIR Publications decided
>> that MC wasn't making enough profit for them. That's not to say that
>> MC wasn't making any money, because it way. In fact, more than our
>> competition. However, for IIR Publications, from what I understand,
>> the profit just wasn't enough.

[End Quote]

-----Original Message-----
From: bill.reger@convergys.com [mailto:bill.reger@convergys.com]
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 11:05 AM
To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
Subject: Re: The weasels at IIR.ORG



Reeve,

I always enjoyed Midrange Computing and I can understand your frustration
with IIR for shutting them down.  However, the reality of business today 
is
that businesses sometimes lose money and eventually have to close the
doors.  Many of us have (or know of others who have) experienced this 
harsh
fact of business today firsthand.  Consider all the "dot.com's" that have
shut down in the last year.  It's no fun for employees and its no fun for
employers either.

Maybe IIR could have handled the situation differently, although we don't
know the particulars, only the result.  I suspect that the people at IIR
are not weasels and probably thought long and hard about the realities of
their business.  Being a decisionmaker is not always fun nor easy.

Bill

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