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Steve: On Wed, 18 July 2001, "Steve Richter" wrote: > >I would guess you are speaking of 'Return receipts'' but I'd bet that this > is not what Steve was asking about. I believe he had a significantly more > troublesome "feature" in mind. > > I have in mind the activity I see on my dsl modem when I open a msg from say > a yahoo msg board. I assume info is being sent back to yahoo saying that I > am reading the email msg they sent me. > > Does "return receipt" sent back its ack msg to the sender when the isp > receives the msg, when the email recipient receives the msg from the isp or > when the msg is opened and read by the recipient? First, if you use a client that allows you to save the actual e-mail to a file, I'd very much appreciate seeing one of those. Without seeing it, I can't say if it's the same or not. Of course, even if I see it, I might not know; I'm not an expert and new stuff shows up all the time. As for "return receipt", I've seen examples of both 'delivered' and 'received' notices, but don't know enough about standards to say whether support is common for both types. In general, confirmation of delivery would refer to the e-mail being accepted by the server. I suspect this feature is seldom enabled on purpose, although the complementary non-delivery notice is almost as valuable. A confirmation of receipt would be sent by the client program if the feature is enabled as the default or the recipient explicitly allows each response; this is what is commonly understood to be a "return receipt" and might be sent at the moment the client downloads from the server or when the recipient actually does something to the e-mail including deleting it without ever reading it. Finally, to clarify my previous message, I was specifically thinking of such techniques as "E-mail Wiretapping". This might be what Yahoo! messages do; I can't say. But it's simply an example of what can happen when you step outside of plain-text e-mail. Not to say that "plain-text" doesn't have perils. Does anyone else remember ANSI bombs? Now those were sure interesting in their day. Tom Liotta -- Tom Liotta The PowerTech Group, Inc. 19426 68th Avenue South Kent, WA 98032 Phone 253-872-7788 Fax 253-872-7904 http://www.400Security.com ___________________________________________________ The ALL NEW CS2000 from CompuServe Better! Faster! More Powerful! 250 FREE hours! Sign-on Now! http://www.compuserve.com/trycsrv/cs2000/webmail/ +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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