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Hi Rob,
I think "most" is fairly accurate though. Most of my Java student are under 30. Only 2 in the last 30 places have been older than that.
Alistair
-----Original Message-----
From: rob@dekko.com [mailto:rob@dekko.com]
Sent: 03 July 2001 20:42
To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
Subject: Re: RE: Free OS/400
This ageism crap is bull$^|%! The guy who designed our web site is 57
years old and we got him started on Notes designer and what not from the
ground up. There is a gal in our department who was born in the first half
of the last century and is taking a night course in Java.
Rob Berendt
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A smart person learns from their mistakes,
but a wise person learns from OTHER peoples mistakes.
"Mike Naughton"
<mnaughton@juddwire To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
.com> cc:
Sent by: Subject: Re: RE: Free OS/400
owner-midrange-l@mi
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07/03/2001 11:31 AM
Please respond to
MIDRANGE-L
I think this statement is true for more than just the midrange market.
There's a reason that all (well, most!) of the web designers/java
programmers are in their twenties -- it's the young folks who like
learning new things. As we get older, most of us tend to get lazy and
stick with what we know already -- it's easier and it seems more secure.
But it's not just midrange folks -- why do you think people who already
know Windoze don't run to OS/2 or Linux? Why do people who know NT or Unix
seem deaf to the advantages of the AS/400? Resistance to change is just
human nature. As for not wanting to spend money, how many of us regularly
buy new things to try that may or may not be useful? If what you have is
"good enough", then there has to be a real incentive to invest money (and
time) in something that promises to be "better". Some people (many people
on this list, perhaps) will do this, but most won't.
IMHO, the reason Micro$oftt has "won" (so far) is that their products have
become de facto standards: everybody uses them so everybody knows how to
use them so . . . and the cycle continues. Changing this will take more
than just a better product -- it will take getting that better product
into the hands of enough people to make a difference. More aggressive
marketing is part of the answer, and so is giving away things like
WebSphere, just to get it out there.
Just my $.02 . . . .
MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com writes:
>Simon,
>
>This statement of yours is so true! Sadly :(
>
>Scott Mildenberger
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Simon Coulter [mailto:shc@flybynight.com.au]
>> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 6:06 PM
>> To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
>> Subject: Re: Free OS/400
>
>(lots clipped)
>
> The problem has nothing to do with the tools or the OS but rather the
>dullness of the midrange market. Midrange managers generally won't spend
>money (SEU was good enough for me AND we've already paid for it) an
>midrange
>programmers generally don't want to learn anything new (RPG IV, ILE, CODE,
>etc.) Some people on these lists are moving that way but they are the
>exception rather than the norm.
>
>(lots clipped)
Mike Naughton
Senior Programmer/Analyst
Judd Wire, Inc.
124 Turnpike Road
Turners Falls, MA 01376
413-863-4357 x444
mnaughton@juddwire.com
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