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  • Subject: Re: iseries slide show....
  • From: Chuck Lewis <clewis@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 14:25:25 -0500

"Too much time on your hands, and it's slipping away, slipping away..."

"Stone, Brad V (TC)" wrote:

> Too much time?  Because I do things visable to the public I have too much
> time on my hands?  Ring... ring... Ya, this is wake up calling... :)
>
> Brad
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Don [mailto:dr2@cssas400.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 12:26 PM
> > To: 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'
> > Subject: RE: iseries slide show....
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > YOu mean Erik?  I nominate him, Brad Stone and all the rest
> > of you folks
> > that are just bitching and have too much time on your hands...:)
> >
> > iseriesnation.org is the site if you product a QUALITY production!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, Stone, Brad V (TC) wrote:
> >
> > > Where's that guy who did the flash page for iSeries nation.
> >  I nominate him!
> > > :)  Either that or I spend a week learning flash.
> > >
> > > Brad
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Don [mailto:dr2@cssas400.com]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 9:59 AM
> > > > To: 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'
> > > > Subject: iseries slide show....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Brad, Doug, et al....
> > > >
> > > > You folks put together a GOOD and POSITIVE slide show and
> > > > I'll put it on
> > > > iseriesnation.org for the world to have FREE!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Don
> > > >
> > > > ----------
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, Stone, Brad V (TC) wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Doug,
> > > > >
> > > > > > Brad,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >I dont need to pay 22.90 to have someone tell me the iSeries
> > > > > > is a good
> > > > > > >machine.  If you do, good for you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think you're missing the point.  The idea is to get the CD
> > > > > > to share with those
> > > > > > outside of the choir, when they can watch it at their
> > convienence.
> > > > >
> > > > > Like I told JT, now IBM (or BP, whoever...) wants me to buy
> > > > a CD for 22.90
> > > > > so that I can have a freakin slide show?  C'mon.  That's
> > > > pretty poor.  I can
> > > > > show them how great the iSeries is for free by showing them
> > > > applications
> > > > > that run on it.  Is it free shipping, or are they making
> > > > another mint there
> > > > > as well?
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >Do you really think IBM needs your "benefiting" by
> > > > buying this CD?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As I understand it, the CD was produced by a business
> > > > > > partner, not IBM.  When
> > > > > > you order, you are redirected to the BP's site.  So I doubt
> > > > > > IBM gets much
> > > > > > monetary benefit from sales of the CD.
> > > > >
> > > > > Semantics.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I also don't think it is the BP's responsibility to give free
> > > > > > copies to whoever
> > > > > > asks.  It is my understanding they produced it on their own
> > > > > > dime.  I haven't
> > > > > > seen it yet, so can't comment on the content or quality.  But
> > > > > > the comments from
> > > > > > those here who have seen it seem positive.
> > > > >
> > > > > Watching people talk about how great the iSeries is
> > > > honestly makes me feel
> > > > > warm and fuzzy too!  Like with Al Barsa was on CNBC, I was
> > > > really excited
> > > > > about it.  Although I had to end up watching it over the
> > > > net.  :(  It was
> > > > > still neat.
> > > > >
> > > > > But you still have to lead them to water before they'll
> > > > drink.  And we
> > > > > shouldn't be doing the leading.  The person with the
> > > > product should be.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How IBM can benefit is by increasing exposure and sales of
> > > > > > the machine, not the
> > > > > > CD.  At $22.90, I wouldn't say the CD is going to be a money
> > > > > > maker for the BP
> > > > > > either.  It sounds to me like they are just trying to recoup
> > > > > > distribution costs.
> > > > >
> > > > > They will make money.  And it will also draw money in the
> > > > form of more
> > > > > business for them, probably some extra money from IBM
> > > > themselves, etc.  When
> > > > > you put out a product like this, it's not to make money
> > > > from the product,
> > > > > it's to make money from other means.  It's advertising, and
> > > > having people
> > > > > pay for it.  It's really brilliant, actually.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >Man, you should have saved your 22.90 and bought a clue, JT.
> > > > > >  There are
> > > > > > >quite a few iSeries proponents that pour their heart and
> > > > > > soul into the
> > > > > > >machine and the "nation" that existed before IBM started
> > > > > > theirs.  Saying
> > > > > > >"everyone is waiting for IBM to do and pay for it all" is
> > > > > > WAY off base.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And isn't that exactly what this BP did?  Pour their heart
> > > > > > and soul into
> > > > > > producing a CD themselves instead of waiting for IBM?  And
> > > > > > then make it
> > > > > > available to us for a nominal fee?
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh please....
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Doug
> > > > >
> > > > > Brad
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